Conversation I overheard in Tesco carpark "more children = more dole"

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the2real4mafol said:

Kasz216 said:

the2real4mafol said:
I know it's a problem but i think it's widely blown out of proportion when compared with tax avoidance and stuff like the royal family. Obviously, there are people like in the OP that scrounge off the state but surely more people rely on benefits because they aren't paid enough than those who are too lazy to work. Obviously, it's wrong but really the whole system (welfare, taxes etc.) is rotten anyways.

Blame immigrants all you want, but you can't blame them for all our problems.

I dunno.  I imagine the Royal Family is a lot like college football.

It takes in more money they it costs.

I mean.  The Crown estates brings in more then the soverign grant...

and that's not even counting the fact that the minute you take away the monarchy tourism is going to take a huge hit... as it being the last living monarchy (rich white people) care about is a big tourist draw... and the various royal merchandise and branding on various stuff.

I don't really buy that argument that monarchy drives tourism here. There are so many areas for tourists to see just in London alone (let alone the rest of the UK) that i don't see why one family matters. Tourism won't stop or even go down if England became a republic. 

People come here for our history, our culture, our landmarks. That won't change if we abolished the monarchy. 

I suppose the only thing is that the monarchy is considered "British" when in reality they are all foreigners themselves anyway. Controversial, but i consider them scourgers as well. If people want to single out the poles, romanians, somalis etc as lazy scourgers then the royal family should be obvious especially with the OTT news coverage the royals get. The fact the media when on and on when that baby was born makes me despise them. They are just humans like us, why treat them as gods?

Why should they get all that money for being born into the Windsor family name and nothing else? They should have to work like everyone else. Even if they have a positive impact on tourism, they are such an antiquated and old fashion thing. Do they really have a place in English society anymore? I don't think so

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe they are relevant in the way they were, but should the royal family be untethered from the state so that they are just a rich family, most of their property (and the profits that they make) would then be purely theirs unless we have a civil war and take it from them. I see it as a similar situation to gun-control in the US, the country would be better off with strict gun control, but to put that into action now would cause a lot of issues that would remain for years (and that's ignoring the more modern problem of effective guns that can be cheaply printed).

As for the benefit issue, I am pretty sure that while more children = more dole... the cost of raising additional children outweighs what you are given by the government (each additional child gets a smaller percentage of the child benefit given for the first child, and I think there may have been a recent change that puts a cap on child benefit after 3 kids or something) The only way more kids will make someone richer is if someone is claiming illegally.