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Kane1389 on 20 December 2013
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g911turbo said:
Kane1389 said:

Really, Mario Kart and the Wheel????  REALLY!  What else did people use that wheel for?  The Wii Fit balance board?  What else did they use that for?  In fact, I would argue it becomes MORE impressive when you realize what people were willing to pay for said bundle.

So are we gonna pretend Mario Kart was the only game on Wii that uses Motion control Wheel?

Imagine if Uncharted 4 came out, but in order to get the uber-sweet graphics you needed a $40 dongle that attached to your PS4.  So now the game is $100.  If that game sold well, would you argue it was "bundled"?  If the game sold poorly, would you use that as your excuse? 

...wat?

Even with the Wii itself, many people bought it JUST for Wii Sports.  Think about that.  They were willing to pay 250 dollars for the Wii Sports experince.  After all, many did let the system collect dust afterwards, or sold them off.

Yeah, im gonna call major bullshit on this one. People did not pay 250$ just to experience motion controlls demo

Another point, if bundling a game is guaranteed sales, why don't Sony and Microsoft use it?  Oh wait, they do.

No one bundles their sales anywhere near to the amount Nintendo does. Not even close

The bottom line is, in the past, Nintendo has been a SW giant.  Sony and Microsoft have their share of amazing IPs too.  Another fact is that Wii U is not selling as well as Nintendo hoped, but there is still hope for them to turn it around (see PS3 late sales as an example).

They are a SW giant, no one is disputing that, but the way OP presented that was wrong, innacurate and stupid. 

And you dont honestly think Wii U is gonna go anywhere near PS3's sales, do you

 

My point is, the fact that you're moving software bundled with and Item does not make the sale of the SW any less impressive, especially if you're effectively charging for the bundled item. Wii Fit is the perfect example.

Actually, yes it does. This is logic 101. If people bought Wii for a Super Mario Galaxy game, they're gonna get Wii Sports regardless if they wanted it or not, yet it still counts as a sale for  the game despite people not having the desire to have it in the first place .Its almost not even a bundle because it doesnt add any extra cost to the hardware purcahse like real bundles do, Wii Sports is more of an add on than an extra game really

Not sure what  you don't get about my UC4 example.  Let's say that EVERY copy of Uncharted 4 also comes with a gun harness that connects to the PS4 controller.  Are you going to argue that UC4 only sold well because people were getting that gun harness too?  Does that make it clearer?  Afterall, they could use it to play other shooting games...

Yes I would, unless that gun can only be used on UC4

And when you say that no one bundles nearly as much as Nintendo... didn't really answer the question.  The questions was, why NOT?  Why doesn't Sony bundle more if they can get more sales from it?

That I do not know, you have to ask Yushida or Kaz for that. I still dont see how this question refutes the fact that that list is made up of mostly extremly bundled games.  Nintendo doest even actually bundle Wii Sports and SMB 1. They came with no extra cost with the system. Its basically a free game. So congrats Nintendo, 2 games you gave away for free are among the flawed top 15 list.

The OP should have included multiplat games that were released at the same time and the same EXACT game.  Examples, GTA5, CODs.  That seems fair if we are ONLY comparing SW.  But bundled SW should stay.  So I agree it might have been innacuarate, but stipid might be a bit harsh (expecially since 90% of the posts here are Nintendo flame lol).

No, because we cannot the measure the actual demand those games had. I bought a Wii for DKR and i had absolutely no interest in playing Wii Sports, yet it still counted as a sale for Wii Sports, despite the customer having no desire for it. 

I don't think Wii U will hit PS3 sales.  No.  But I would have said the same thing about the PS3 back then too.  With another price cut and MK8, anything is possible.  I would like to see the Wii U do better/well, it's good for the industry as a whole.

No, one game will not make such a difference not even close. PS3 has an actuall 3rd party that keep making games for it constantly while Wii U has to rely mostly on Nintendo.