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selnor1983 on 19 December 2013
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theprof00 said:
selnor1983 said:
theprof00 said:
1. XB1 doesn't have dvr
2. Xbox guide does not work with apps
3. Xb1 would make cable service more expensive than competitors, (+22$/mo for two years [doesn't include live subscription needed to even access streaming lulz])
4. No coax port
5. Apps already exist on every other console
6. Cable companies already have their own hardware that they rent out and make lots of profit on.

This is crazy. Does no PS fan know anything about Xbox One?

1. This can be added at anytime.

2. ???? I am already doing this with SkyDrive app, Machinima among others. I can see whats new in the guide. You have to customise the Guide to see the app. Its not rocket science.

3. Microsoft can do whatever deal they want

4. No need. Xbox 360 has been recieving Sky in the UK Live for over 3 years without needing a single Cable or box anywhere in the house.

5. Yes they do. But the 2 countries Im referring to have always had way more on Xbox. Already in the UK on Xbox One theres over 25 apps. Windows 8 Kernell baby.

6. Cable companies do not make their own hardware. They have companies do it for them and pay those companies. My Sky box is made by Amstrad others by PACE.

Look, I hear what you're saying. I did not know you could add specific channels to the guide, but here's the problem. While as you point out, there is a workaround for all this. It cannot replace a cable box. Fundamentally, you understand what I'm saying, right? A cable box has specific things it needs, and an xbox cannot do them. Yes, maybe one day there will be a new generation of cable box, the "streambox", but until then it won't replace.

The coax right now is standard, and the upgrade is to fiber optic. Stream isn't even on the horizon. Why would cable companies just give up their major advantage in profit margin? While there is a slow downfall of the cable company, and that makes them nervous, streaming isn't going to just pop up in two years. This is a thing that takes much much more time.

Now, what Microsoft COULD do, is release a new SKU that has a coax, but that's 5 years down the line. I even made a thread that they could do this....what, a year ago. I know it's possible. It's not possible on xb1.

Oh hold on. Im not saying they wont have cable box as a major option still. Im saying that these companies will offer the Xbox One option to.

So a customer can choose Sky with a Sky HD box, or Sky with an Xbox One. One requires a Sky Dish on the side of your house and a Sky Box, the other an internet connection and an Xbox One. But the Xbox One also offers Gaming, Internet surfing, Apps, Wuaki.TV, Netflix etc. Its an alternative and something that cables would benefit from as Streaming services are now offering all but live sports these days which is starting to encroach on cable providers. Embracing that is a smart move for cable companies to adapt.