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Kane1389 said:
the_dengle said:
Kane1389 said:

As for software, take away bundled games and pokemon and the lists is starting to look very different.

What logic is there in doing that? Is a bundled sale not a legitimate software sale? More laughably, the sale of a Pokemon game is somehow illegitimate?

That said, Nintendo without bundles and Pokemon is still less handicapped than, say, Microsoft without bundles and Halo. Bye-bye, Kinect Adventures! Or Sony without bundles and Gran Turismo... lol, their five best-selling titles.

I didnt say it was illegitimate.

And Halo and Gran Turismo were bundled NOWHERE NEAR as much as dozens of those Wii games that either came with an extra controller or a complete console with no additional charge. Wii Sports was bundled with EVERY Wii sold outside of Japan. If Sony and MS bundled their games with every PS360 sold, you can bet that list would have been filled with dozens of Sony and Microsoft titles

I wasn't comparing Halo and GT to bundled games. I was substituting them for Pokemon, which you seem to be inclined to disregard for no reason in particular. Kinect Adventures is the bundled game Microsoft would lose.

In other words, take away Pokemon and Nintendo still has Mario and all of its spinoffs, Zelda, Smash. Bros, Animal Crossing, the Wii series, and so on. Take away Halo, what does Microsoft have left? ...Fable? Likewise, Sony's strongest franchise after GT is probably Uncharted. How does that compare with Mario sales-wise? Or even Zelda, Animal Crossing, Smash. Bros? Not too favorably, I think.

"Heavily bundled" games are a funny thing. You know, if the bundle didn't sell, the game would stop being bundled. It's not Nintendo's fault 20 million people weren't interested in the inFamous Collection PS3 Bundle. If there had been enough demand for that bundle, Sony would have sold as many as they could manufacture. People weren't interested in the Nintendo Land bundle, and Nintendo dropped it. Lookit that, it didn't get a free ride to 30 million by nature of being "heavily bundled" by Nintendo.