KZ > ryze and dead ryzing, KZ > Forza NPD

[theprof00]

XxGame4lifexX said:

theprof00 said:

XxGame4lifexX said:

MoHasanie said:
Well that's not surprising since the PS4 is selling better than the Xbox 1 and people buying PS4's only can chose from 2 exclusives, of which one was poorly reviewed.

agree.

Others dont see the fact just see what they want. 

I'll sit and read anything you have to say with a completely open mind if you explain to me how it's obvious that a multiplatform game should have higher sales on a single platform than an exclusive.

My theory is that CoD is simply a more popular game. What's your reasoning. All I need is a simple explanation.

Aside from that, please also explain what kind of knack sales we would see if it was the only exclusive. Because what you said is that fewer exclusives means higher sales, which implies that there would always be 700k exclusive sales. If ps4 had more exclusives, then Killzone would have less because some of the 700k cap would go onto a different game. So, if there was only knack, then knack sales should be 700k....or, if knack didn't exist, there should be more killzone sales. Can you explain this in more detail?

I already explained myself in detail but you dont seem to understand or are seeing stuff in your way. I cant change the way you view things. I am not going to bother anymore. 

But one last thing to your last question. Even if knack was the only retail exclusive at launch. Sales wouldn't be that good simply because it is a new ip....wait...is it? Some new ips dont sell that well but other do. Another reason is because the ps4 and xbox one both dont have a massive userbase atm. Even if knack would have launched along with infamous or uncharted. Sales would still have been low. There. 

have a nice day!

you've not explained a thing. You simply said that sales are higher because of fewer exclusives. You haven't explained that one single bit. I just gave you the opportunity to explain it again, and you refused, saying "i can't chantge the way you view things". This has nothing to do with me, just explain it.

Ok, but if there was no knack, then killzone sales should be higher. Correct? All I'm doing is taking what you said and looking at it from a critical view. For instance, if you said you wore a hat all day every day, I would say "what about in the shower". You made a statement, and I'm simply looking for proof, which you have not provided. Simply saying something is true doesn't make it so.

You also don't explain why some new ips sell and some don't.

Look. I'll explain it for you.

Games sell because they are desirable. Generally, this comes down to hype, marketing, quality, word of mouth, etc. Availability has almost zero impact. Killzone sold more than ryse and dead rysing because it is a more desirable game. TO use your own example. Ryse is a new ip. And dead rising has been losing steam over this past generation.

2	Dead Rising	X360	2006	Action	Capcom	1.11	0.62	0.08	0.20	2.01
3	Dead Rising 2	X360	2010	Action	Capcom	0.68	0.48	0.09	0.11	1.36
4	Dead Rising 2	PS3	2010	Action	Capcom	0.39	0.53	0.15	0.20	1.27

Meanwhile,

1	Killzone 2	PS3	2009	Shooter	Sony Computer Entertainment	1.37	1.02	0.08	0.45	2.92
2	Killzone 3	PS3	2011	Shooter	Sony Computer Entertainment	1.32	0.77	0.09	0.32	2.51

You can see that killzone is simply a more popular franchise. 2 killzones outsell all dead risings.

Therefore, it's only natural that a quality shooter with an established fanbase would beat the launch sales of a new ip (with the worst reviews out of any launch game) and a game which has never been able to match sales with it.

Now, beating forza is unexpected, and maybe you could attribute it to platform install base, but ps4 has only sold 15% more consoles, whereas KZ has over 30% more sales.

THere is clearly something not being considered here, and my theory is that console purchasers are more excited about killzone than forza. It's actually very simple, and has nothing to do with the availability of competing exclusives. Nobody is FORCED to buy an exclusive.