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curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:

THats a bunch of crap and you know it. LMAO your not even trying. PS4 AND Xbone had much better launches than Wii U. They cant even keep these systems on the shelves. THe preorder numbers speak for themselves, theres like one or two Wii U games in the charts. Unless you have some other reason why people are rushing out to buy these systems im going to call BS

dynamic environments? you mean being launched into the background? that doesnt change anything you just went from one platform to another, hell you barely have any control with the barrel parts.

It's not crap. Ryse, Killzone et al are not exactly being held up as instant classics. Your argument was we should expect better games than the pre-existing all-time greats of the genre before we buy. Where are the PS4/Xbone games that are the new absolute best in history within their genre?

No, I mean the way the environment shifts, breaks apart, morphs as you travel through it. The SNES games did not have this. It changes things significantly..

Please the systems JUST came out. We already know that launch games are not going to be great, and no im not expecting them to be better but that cant be noticible worst and thats the vibe im getting from NSMB series, so why waste my money?

No it doesnt, thats more of an aesthitic thing and simply moving platforms around that has been done in numerous games before. Its not like the player has direct control over those elements.

Your argument that only the best games in a genre are worth buying doesn't make sense though; that restricts buyers to about 30 games EVER.

And the breaking, shifting levels are absolutely not just aesthetic as it is the traversible parts that transform, and very often in response to the player's movement and interaction.

No that was never my argument, you are trying to put words in my month. My argument was about the 2d Mario SERIES not the whole damn genre that makes little sense as not every game in the genre plays the same. Sonic is different from Rayman from LBP from Kirby and so on.  The NSMB series is not as good as the older Mario games which is why i skipped them. THere is no point for me to buy new games in a SERIES when said games are getting worst. Its no different than someone skipping say COD.

But since World and Bros 3 are still among the genre's absolute best, a game can fall short of them and still be an excellent game well worth playing.

You keep trying to throw genre in their and missing the point. Sonic is within the same genre but not the same series. So even if its not as good as Mario 3 it is different enough to be worth the play. I cant say the same for the NSMB series because it is in the same series so essentially you are playing a lesser version of a game youve already played. Now that doesnt make it bad, there still good. But to each their own. IMHO if i know its at least not going to be close or at the very least try to be different then they are not worth playing. ANother example Mario Land 2 is not as good as Mario 3 either, but it was so different in tone, aesthitics, worlds items, etc. that IMHO it was worth playing becasue it still kept the core Mario element while still doing its own thing.