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curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:
curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:

Funny how tonight's History Channel movie "Bonnie and Clyde" is going to have as much of all of that as television allows yet it's aimed squarely at adults.  Oh, yeah and the last time I checked you're supposed to be 18 to read Playboy.

Video games featuring these things are not the same. They do not have one iota of the maturity of Bonnie and Clyde. They're not targeting adults, (at least most aren't) they're targeting teenagers who want to be adults.

 

Well that's the direction that they should be heading in if Video Games ever want to mature as an artform and not being locked in the nursery room of the types of video games that Nintendo pushes out Gen after Gen.  At least studios like Naughty Dog, Bethesda, Rockstar and others are trying to push gaming in a mature direction.  And if you ever look at the works of literature and film that are supposed to be the most mature they're all full of sex, violence, and four letter words eg. Edgar Allan Poe, William Burroughs, Chuck Palaniuk, Brett Easton Ellis, and  the Marquis De Sade. 

And since when have teenagers ever respected age limits? Drinking, smoking, porn, violent movies and video games, kids explore these things well before society decides they are ready for them. The gaming industry exploits this.

It's not the Game Industry's fault or even place obviously, if the lazy, no - nothing parents would work harder at keeping these things away from their kids until they're supposed to be mature enough to handle them, then maybe their kids would tuirn out better. 


More "adult" does not = better. Many great, classic films and books are child friendly.

For the most part, the companies that make today's "core" games are pushing gaming towards adolescence, not maturity.


Some are but definitely not all or even most.  And even films and books that are considered today to be child friendly were considered edgy and adult in their day eg.  Universal's Classic Horror Movies used to make grown women flee the theater in terror when Bela Lugosi first appeared on the screen or the atheistic books of Mary Shelley, Jules Verne, or H. G. Welles.  On the other hand in their entire library of games Nintendo dosn't have anything that they promote heavily that wouldn't be considered child friendly.

No.  They're really not. The stories and themes in Half-Life,  Fallout 3 and The works of Suda 51 and Hideo Kojima can hold their ground with edgy and adult graphic novels like Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" and Alan Moore's "Watchmen".  The "Tomb Raider" and "Uncharted" games can hold their ground as adult and edgy works with the greatest adventure novels of Michael Crichton and Talbot Mundy, "Alan Wake," "The Last of Us", and "Bioshock" can hold their own with the edgiest and more adult horror novels like those of Stephen King and Clive Barker, and the stories in Grand Theft Auto games are certainly comparable to those in the most adult and edgiest crime fiction ie. the tale of Nico Bellic is certainly comparable to that in the film "Eastern Promises."