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Nem said:
Xxain said:
 


The Idea for Sonic Adventure was from Iizuka! That's why he is the director of both Adventure 1,2 and shadow. Being the producer has nothing to do with creative input in the game. Matte of fact Naka complained all the time since being put in producer position kept him away from a hands on approach to the series. Producer is just the guy that make sure milesstones are being hit when they are supposed to.  The idea that Naka did only good is also BS. Naka is part responsible for Shadow the hedgehog and 06!.His is idea was that because westerners liked violence adding it in Sonic would increase appeal... how stupid. Your giving credit to the wrong people in both regards. I am not disagreeing that Sonic tone is hampering the series but the stupid premise that going back to it would fix the series while ignoring the up and down in quality in the game itself as the biggest factor in the decline. Your just using alot of flat out wrong information.  Classics are loved dearly by those that played them and they had no story. Generations and colors have very little stupid stories and generally praised by the community. Ironically the game you keep using as the ideal in tone is the most hated in community. 

 

I will have to leave it at this. Must go to work.


Ok, well it doesnt add up that if in one case Naka beeing the producer means he has nothing to do with it, but on the other one he has everything to do with it. You're not making sense. Either he has nothing to do with it on all regards or he has something to do with it on all regards. Make up your mind. :P

With that said, i disagree. Again, under Naka Sonic team built great games like Nights, like Burning rangers, like Billy hatcher. Under the current management its been nothing but misses. How can there not be a correlation?

Finally the critics of Sonic 06 were great, but there was an insane ammount of hype behind the game. Something that doesnt exist in the most recent games. Graphically the series has actually taken a step back. The community criticises the game with good reason because much of it was wrong, especially cause it was rushed. But, the premise of a storyline with cool characters wasnt that. That premise hyped the game up and was a sucess. I actually bought a new console (the xbox 360) with the game. It was the game that made me get a new console. That is what i think can be salvaged from that game.

1. Where did I not make sense? Yuji Naka was promted to Producer after Sonic and Knuckles. From this point on his Job was to oversee all projects by done Sonic Team and other various teams. This does not mean he just disappeared, of course not he was still there for consultant purposes but hands on jobs like programming(which he loved), designer etc he was not able to do. This is part of the reason left and formed Probe. To start making games again. Lets talk about management. Yuji Naka left during development of 06 which developer have gone on record to  state affected the development of the game. From that point on There was no official head of Sonic Team(btw some ex SEGA spilled the beans that "Sonic Team" doesn't really exist anymore) So every Sonic game from 06 - Colors had a different director with ideas about how to push Sonic forward. This is referred to Dark Age of Sonic and why so many kind's of Sonic existed. It was not untill Lizuka came back to be the main head of an actual "Sonic Team" for colors tp set things straight. He is currently he is 2 for 3 and though Lost World was a dud it is nowhere the suckage of the Dark Age Sonic games. 

2 Nights, Burning Rangers, and Billy Hatcher were neither critical or commercial success. They are love for distinct ideas and charm. Again Yuji Naka did not create those games. He oversaw all of them. Iizuka was creator of Nights, Shun Nakamura was Billy Hatcher and Naoto Oshima  was Burning Rangers. Now this is not say he was not involved. I believe he is responsible for the Nights Engine but the high hoarse you are sitting him on is underserved.

3. It is generally agreed upon by the Sonic community that 06 and Shadow overstep the boundary in how far to take seriousness of the IP. Sonic Adventure 2 is also generally agreed upon to be the best balance.