Should probability invalidate responsibility?

[DarthVolod]

SocialistSlayer said:

DarthVolod said:

SvennoJ said:

Ponyless said:

 

If you're fucking a girl and the condom breaks, even though there was only a 1 percent chance of it breaking, should you still be held accountable for the child if the woman chooses not to get an abortion? That was his point.

Well that one is easy. It's your child, end of story. If one chooses not to have an abortion, the other is still responsible for the life of the child.

I would disagree ... the very presence of a condom would suggest that pregnancy was not the intended goal of the sexual encounter. It would be obvious to anyone that in such a situation the pregnancy was an accident.

An abortion should be conducted at the discretion of the woman. It is her body, and the ultimate decision to abort should be in her hands in the same way that the decision to undergo any medical procedure should be up to the individual (assuming they are competent to make such decisions).

 

 

at bolded that is scientifically and biologically inaccurate.

making the whole premise of your argument false.

Need to clear up some confusion here ... are we saying that women have no private property rights (the first property they aquire being their own bodies)?

Or ... are we saying that the child's body is not the woman's body? Well, that is obvious, but it is also irrelevant. An embryo does not have rights ... just as sperm and eggs do not have rights even though, under proper conditions, they could be used to potentially form a new life.

Scientifically and biologically, a group of cells is not an independent lifeform with a developing capacity to reason. It does not have rights ... rights are the freedoms to perform actions. A woman who undergoes abortion is not violating the rights of the child, the child is simply incapable of performing independent action/ living outside of the mother's constant biological support until a certain point near the end of pregnancy (or birth to be most accurate).

To not allow a woman to determine what happens with her body would be to violate her own right to life. There can not be a right to violate the rights of others ... that invalidates the entire concept.