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globalisateur said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
SvennoJ said:
selnor1983 said:
The bottom pictures aree all wrong in colour. Theirs no black. The top images are far better. And have more vibrant colour depth. The bottom pics are washed out. My console looks like the top.I have setting on 36 bit colour (factory is 24 ) and RGB colour to full range ( factory set to half ) also 1080p. Best pictuure. Rich colour and not washed out.

They're only all wrong in color if you have not properly calibrated your tv. Judging them on a full rgb pc screen is not a good comparison either.

The issue is that the Xbox One alters the image to make it 'pop' on pc screens. However by doing so it removes detail from the image, both in the lower black and upper white range. Apart from the loss of detail it's also the odd one out again. If you calibrate your tv so the xbox one looks nice, everything else will look washed out. If you calibrate your tv for movie viewing (DVD or Blu-ray calibration) the Xbox One output will be too dark and oversaturated.

It was the same with 360. PS3, TV, DVD, could all share the same settings for correct brighness and contrast range with proper shadow detail, the 360 was too dark on the same settings. Set it right for 360 -> PS3, DVD, TV all look washed out. Now with Xbox One it seems they've only made it worse.

The fact that there is such a huge difference between 720p and upscaled 1080p output should raise plenty of red flags. Calibration should happen on the display side, the console only needs to send the complete unaltered data over.

I hope they add options to disable all the image 'enhancements' in a patch. No sharpness filter and gamma adjustment please.

Everything goes through my Xbox One. TV, Games, Bluray, Tablet screen on large screen. Etc. The Xbo One is my media hub. Use the in built HDTV set up program on Xbox One. It sets all the settings with you. And wallah. Now my Sky TV looks better through The One than direct. It upscales to 1080p my 720p Sky image. Also the colours are WAY better through The One than direct to TV.

I am extremely happy with my 1080p output image. Looks far better than in 720p. It makes Ryse look more realsitic than it already did.

Thats funny because Ryse doesnt use it, Crytek wrote there own software upscaler, presumably they thought it was bad also, to go to this effort. 


Are you sure about that bolded part? Because it would be easier for them to just using the hardware upscaler of the AMD GPU (the same as the PS4).

If I understood properly, there are 2 hardware scalers in the X1. The one in the GPU similar to all GCN AMD cards (a very good upscaler until proven otherwise) and one added by Microsoft architects which does sharpen the image and maybe has others features.

The retail BF4 of X1 does not anymore sharpen the image compared to the review build. I very much doubt that Dice upscales the image via software, it would be too expensive on an already demanding game, they must be using the hardware GPU AMD standard free scaler.

The same for Ryse, why use CPU or GPU ressources, losing 1 or 2 fps when you have a free hardware scaler in the GPU?

Yup very sure, feel free to put some effort in and google it.