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Seece on 04 December 2013
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Zero999 said:
lt_dan_27 said:
Zero999 said:

bolded: no.

bolded 2: fallacy, altough ps4 had an amazing launch, this ratio is due to wii u's low 2013 sales. looking at it more logicaly, ps4 should end up 2013 with under 3M. in other words, just 33% more than wii u in 2012. see the difference? of course you do.

the fact is that sales are picking up for wii u and there's a huge amount of titles already announced for 2014.

I messed up the first bolded quote, let me rephrase that. I meant to say both the xbox one and ps4 have overtaken the wiiU's lifetime sales in the UK. Sorry about that. Also, the ps4 IS at 2.1 million units. That's a quote FROM SONY. So you're right, the ps4 has sold more than half the lifetime of the wiiU's sales, and it was in 16 days, not two weeks, sorry.  I don't see where your under 3m for ps4 idea comes from for the ps4. We know that the ps4 has over 2 million back orders in the US alone. So, the PS4 will easily be to 3 million by the end of the year, and possibly more if they can keep up with demand. Theny you're also ignoring the fact demand for the wiiU fell off a massive cliff after 2012, and it has NEVER recovered. Also, just under 3 million means 50% more than 2 million. Your so called recovery in sales is simply because of the holiday season, and it's sales aren't nearly as good as it's launch. Look at every other launch, the next years holiday season sales are usually higher, NOT a quarter. So no, I don't see your point. The ps4 clearly has a higer demand. Also, you can't say low 2013 sales, when 2013 has made up over 85% of it's time on the market. So yeah, none of your points are valid. 

wii u sold 2.25m in 2012, so just under 3m IS 33% more. the wii u sales HAVE recovered and the killer 2014 lineup will only make it better and better.

considering ps4 WORLDWIDE preorders of around 1.6M, I don't see where your idea that ps4 has 2m orders in US alone, AFTER LAUNCH. what i know is that those 2.1m indicate a black friday of around 220k in america, and the prospects are that it will go down on the next weeks.

OF COURSE I CAN SAY LOW 2013 SALES, why wouldn't I? the whole point is to prove your fallacy that tries to inflate ps4's situation when a better comparison shows it won't end 2013 that much better than wii u 2012.

With an extra 90% time to achieve it, when you compare the holidays YOY it'll be down.

DK won't push many consoles, Smash and Kart are the two big ones. Zelda isn't confirmed is it? Bayo and X ... I don't need to tell you they won't do anything. Then again you though Sonic would do some damage as well and look how that turned out.

PS4 is (for real) supply constrained, I don't know how that's hard to understand given it's sold 2.1m in such a short space of time, much faster than WiiU did.