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naznatips said:
jimmay said:

Well for starters a console is different from a pc like it is different from a handheld but if you want to cherry pick things i'll just do the same. Their is not a huge difference between a mouse and keyboard vs a controllers but a controller is better than the wii remote for fps's anyway. Apart from dedicated servers (which some consoles games have) a console has all the options of the pc. Wii can't do 720p or 1080p so i guess it should be deducted points for that.....

So lets say we have 2 versions of a game. Lets say it is fifa 09, one is the wii version and the other is the 360 version. The two versions of the game are identical except for the 360 version has online. Although both use different types of contollers they both work equally well and they are both as good as each other in that respect. Now although graphically this hypothetical game looks the same on both consoles because the wii has a lower standard of graphics the wii version should score higher than the 360 version because the game is a good looking game for the wii and only an average looking one for the 360.....and at the same time because wii owners don't care about online it doesn't matter that the wii version doesnt have online and shouldn't be deducted any points? Well using this great logic, even tho this hypothetical game is identical accept for the wii having no online (which makes it worse) the wii version would score higher and not lower than the 360, which is completly backwards when the wii is the worst version.

As the only person who actually uses Dual Analog, Keyboard and Mouse, and Wiimote and Nunchuk for FPS games of the two of us, let me present you with a simple fact: You're wrong. The Wiimote and Nunchuk is far more accurate andn precise than a dual analog control scheme, and the Keyboard and Mouse makes dual analog look like caveman tools.

See, I'm a PC gamer above all else. I play far more PC games than console games and am constantly faced with the massive inferiority of consoles.

Example? You play CoD4 online against a maximum of 16 people and 600P, but I play online against a maximum of 50 people at 1680X1050 resolution and in a far superior online system with far less lag, that is free, and with better graphics to top it off. By your standards, CoD4 on the consoles should be lucky to earn itself an 8, and shouldn't be rated anywhere near the PC version.

On the other hand, Resident Evil 4 on Wii offers a control scheme far superior to the dual analog scheme in RE4 on the Gamecube and PS2, and now Resident Evil 5 is going to use that same control scheme on the PS3 and 360. Because this control scheme is inherintly inferior to the Wii control scheme due to the technical limitations of the PS3 and 360, by your standards the 360 and PS3 versions should be marked down signifficantly in gameplay.

The fact is that if we don't rate games by their own merits on the console they are on, no game will ever be rated within reasonable standards. That said, if there is a game genre that is never fun on one console due to controls or online system or some other reason (Like the joke that is RTS games on analog sticks), then it's perfectly reasonable to subtract points from it, but it should not be a competition with the other console's games.

I love how you think PC is too different from 360 and PS3 for direct comparison but Wii is not. Your fanboyism is palpable.


Well for starters i do use all 3 control methods, so their's that point out of the way. It's a fact that the wii remote is not as accurate as a dual analog control scheme. The wii remote has more lag then the dual analog and to get any kind of accuracy you have to have completly steady hands, sit a certain distants away from the t.v., and because you have to hold the wii remote constantly at a screen it means your hand gets more fatigued than a normal controller. The keyboard and mouse has it's plus points but only the people who don't know what they are talking about claim their is a major difference between the two. Plus the keyboard and mouse is worse for playing more genres of games compared to a controller.

Resident evil 4's wii controls aren't significantly better, they are just a different take on the already top quality controls. How many reviews complained saying the gamecubes and ps2's controls were bad for that game? The answer is none. 

You can play call of duty 4 online on the ps3 for free, lag is down to internet connection not because one person is using a pc and the other is using a console and on the console people play in their lounge or bedroom with a tv that is bigger and easier to see what's going on than the average computer monitor which much smaller.

Bad gameplay is bad gameplay, lack of features is lack of features, poor graphics and sound has nothing to do with having bad gameplay and lack of features. These wii games don't get bad reviews just because they are wii games or just because they are party/mini games, they get bad reviews because they have bad gameplay and lack of features.

And yes the pc is far too different compared to the 360 and ps3. To get a pc to play call of duty 4 in 1680X1050 at the same frame rate as the consoles you'd have to spend over $1000 if not $2000. A 360/ps3 costs from between $280-$500 and the wii is $250. Consoles cost in the same region, the pc doesn't. And stop with this fanboy talk it only makes you look like a fanboy.