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Jay520 said:
Soleron said:

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What I was arguing was cases where the man should be responsible. I never implied that it would be possible in practice. Do you agree that a man who has unprotected sex should be responsible for the child if the woman decides to go through with it?

No. There should be a second decision point for the man before birth as to whether he intends to support it. Then with that knowledge the woman is free to keep it or not.

Practically this is the best possible ending for both parties. Both get to make an informed decision and consequences aren't forced on anyone.

As for the practical legal implications, I would be fine if the law assumed a pregnancy resulted from unprotected sex rather than ineffective contraception. Yes, very small percentage of men would be treated unfairly due to broken condoms (a risk they are always aware of, remember). However, think about the alternative: all males would be able to have endless unprotected sex without fear of consequences. I think the former scenario would have much better practical implications than the alternative.

This kind of thing (1% of people get absolutely destroyed; 99% get away with it) is what I consider the worst possible outcome for any law. Like when everyone shares CDs but one guy gets a $60m infringement judgement. Or everyone makes racist remarks at some point but one guy goes to jail for 2 years over a Twitter comment. THAT is the real injustice in society.

Yes, both sexes should be able to have unlimited unprotected consensual sex without legal consequences. In fact I think that's a principle worth building our society on. Does sex need to have consequences? Like it's wrong or icky or something?