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SocialistSlayer said:

then couldnt you use that same argument about a post-born child? whats to guarentee the already born child doesnt live an anti-social, victimized life. Why not just kill them, to take them out of their potential misery.


See above

TheLastStarFighter said:

It is an issue on many fronts and I'm not talking politics.  The issue is nothing like rape, as we are not referring to rape situations.  It is a situation where a man and a woman chose to have sex.  If a pregnancy results, either the option to end the pregancy or continue it and raise the child is the mother's and the mother's alone, or the responsibility is also the father's and he must bare the burden of raising the child but also consent to ending the pregnancy artificially.  I'm just talking about consistency in laws governing pregnancy and children, regardless of what your view on abortion is.  The "it's the mother's body, her choice" but "you made the baby, you gots to pay for it" mentality is incredibly inconsistent.

It's only unfair when you look at the circumstances after pregnancy. If you look at the entire picture, you will see that the man had his own time to make a decision and so did the woman. At some point the man makes a decision to give his sperm to a female. Then the female makes a decision to use that sperm or not. The difference between the two parties is simply the timing of their decisions, but both parties get their time to decide. During their respective decisions, if both parties choose the action that leads to pregnancy, then it makes sense that both should be responsible for it.