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Jay520 said:
Also, my opinion of abortion don't just stem from morality, but also from the practical effects on society. If a woman is forced to have an unwanted child because abortion is illegal, then the child is more likely to grow up in a environment leading to anti-social behavior (see crime and abortion). There are even some would argue that aborting one child saves one or more lives from being victimized, but I haven't investigated that claim enough to form an opinion on it.

then couldnt you use that same argument about a post-born child? whats to guarentee the already born child doesnt live an anti-social, victimized life. Why not just kill them, to take them out of their potential misery.

 

 

furthermore for those who are claiming its "her own body" could you guys be any more ignorant of biology? its distinctly not her own body. no if's and's or but's about it. From the moment of conception. the baby is its own unique life, seperate from the mother.

And riddle me this why should the mother be the only party that should be involved witht the decision to murder her child. She say she want to murder it, its final, the father gets no say. even though its equally his child. but if that baby is born, all of a sudden his responsible for it, and has to provide for it. IS it his or not, make up your minds! which brings me to the next point. Why does someone get charged with double murder if the kill a pregnant mother, even if she is walking into an abortion clinic, yet if the mother goes ahead and murders her baby, its perfectly alright. Make up your mind is it human or not, it cant be both at the same time.

And then when is it a baby as opposed to a disposable clump of cells. it seems for many of you it okay, to take scissors and stab the babies spinal column, or burn it alive with saline solution, or having its body parts and limbs riped out one by one with forceps, right on up to the baby coming down through the birth canal. uterly repulsive. whats so magical about the split second beofore its completely out of the womb to the split second after its been delivered. what makes it a human. or what other magical timeframe makes it human. for many 5 months 29 days 23 hrs and 59 seconds. Nope not human, perfectly dispendable. but you hit 6 months, no no no , its a human now. the ignorance of science is staggering. 

furthermore, why do some of you guys abortion at this or that time frame is wrong or regrettable, or should be avoided. if its not feakin murder like you guys claim its not, then whats possibly wrong about dismembering you baby at for example 8 months?