zarx said:
20happyballs said: Lol. The op doesn't even have an argument against the claims of pc gamers. Basically it says that console gamers are in fact behind a generation, but that they are okay with it. There was no argument in there that even argued the parity. However, I will say that PC gamers are definitely not experiencing anything "next gen" compared to the new generation that just came out. The sad truth is that consoles provide the highest returns for AAA games. There is no developer, except maybe Cryteck, who cares to bring their games visual capabilities far beyond what's possible on consoles. Sure PCs are much more powerful, but that doesn't mean anything because it's not like developers are going out of their way to tap into that extra power. |
There is a handful of studios that still push PCs along with Crytek there is Dice (BF4 was a bit of a mess with so many platforms and a lot of major engine changes but the PC version still pushes past the PS4) and their tech is now being shared across EA games so Dragon Age and Mass Effect should also push more advanced tech as they will ship with Mantle support, then you have CDProjekt RED with the Witcher 3 already looking stunning and improving steadily and they have two new teams working on more projects, Star Citizen which is aming to be the next Crysis and is pushing for medium settings to push a GTX 680/770, and Ubisoft despite their horrid optimisation actually do usually push some extra stuff on their PC versions. And you also have both Nvidia and AMD providing developer support to add extra effects on PC with TressFX (recently upgraded with grass and cloth support), PhysX, HBAO+, TXAA etc. And modern techniques like Tesselation and real time lighting will make it easier to scale. And failing that there is always the option of pushing higher resolution and framerate as that quickly soaks up the extra power.
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Yes, I guess from a purely visual standpoint there are a handful of developers trying to make the most out of PCs. However, the games themselves can be easily ported to the PS4 and X1 with only some hits to the visual fidelity and some post processing effects removed. But in the end the core of the games themselves will still be the same on the consoles and PC. PC games, although great looking, are not a generation ahead.
While we haven't seen it yet, soon there will be games coming out or the X1 and PS4 that just cannot be ported to the PS3 and Xbox 360 just like there are games for the PS3 and Xbox 360 that would have never worked on the prior generation. I don't see games such as Assassin's Creed, Gears of War, Uncharted, Infamous, and maybe even COD4 being any good on a PS2. Those games would not have worked on the previous generation. At the time of their release, those games could truly be considered "next gen".
Soon there will be games that won't really be possible on the PS3 and Xbox 360...I know this is somewhat of a subjective opinion, but Ryse is almost one of those games. If Ryse was ported to the Xbox 360 the game would be horrible. The game, although many would disagree, is actually pretty good but only because of the realistic and cinematic visuals made possible with the X1.
Of what I can remember, Crysis 1 is the only PC game that was truly a generation ahead of the consoles. However, most PC gamers at the time couldn't even run it at max settings. For this reason, most PC games today are not that ambitious and so ,consequently, they are not a generation ahead of console games.