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Kasz216 on 03 December 2013
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fighter said:
Kasz216 said:
fighter said:

Anything else ?


1)  Well... yeah.  France is specifically trying to keep them out even though they're set to be in by 2014.  Due to racism.

2) Incorrect.  It's not healthy for women to be routinley sexually harrassed on a daily basis.  Get a grip.

3)  And yet it's proven to have huge negative effects... and yeah, your hiding your racism by pretending to be color blind allows racial profiling.  Your defeating your own arguement.

1/ France is one of the cuntries with most Roms, and we integrate them better than elsewhere. The delay to the Shengen integration allows to negotiate a treaty of return if the foreign roms have illegal settlements and no formal address in France (just as if you are illegally camping in Marseille you are sent back to your home in Paris). At least you tacitely acknowledge your EU exchange argument was fallacious.

2/ Are you unable to distinguish seduction and harrassment ? We are, and consequently our women are not as raped here as they are in the US.

3/ Source for the negative effects ? Our racism is shown as progressing, true, but less than in other OCDE countries if you count far right votes. Also, France is more a melting pot than a salad bowl thanks to the fact that since forever French have less issues with mixed couples (formally demonstrated since the early colonies, we fuck without discrimination [along with the portuguese and in opposition to the anglo-saxon/ commonwealth world])

 

Guess I will have to leave it there. I was initially requesting a debate on social policies, which are the true way to judge a state. Guess that even on societal identities it is too difficult to have a proper debate.


1)  That's a stupid law... seems designed only to keep immigrants out of "well to do" areas.

2)  The above poltitical case was deemed by many french female polticians as routine, and one that just caught media attention, there are countless statements about women being harrassed in everyday life, at pretty much any job that men and women work together.   Constantly hitting on a woman every day while at work with her when she wants you to shut up is sexual harassment. 

3)    I'm not sure why you'd need a source.  It seems fairly obvious.  The inequaties between races are completely ignored.  What's hard to understand about that?   Past that... heard any stories lately about your defense minister?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/11/the-justice-minister-and-the-banana-how-racist-is-france.html

 

http://blackagendareport.com/content/debunking-myth-color-blind-france

 

The colorblind polcy allow racism to continue and simply hide behind the lack of statistics it collects to claim it isn't.