Pemalite said:
Akvod said:
But the point of the docks with iOS and Android is that they stay with you no matter how much you scroll horizontally (or vertically in WP's case).
Another gripe I have is that whereas with the iOS you swipe through fixed pages of apps, you progressively scroll seamlessly through WP. Now, seamless sounds like a really nice word, but it sucks because it makes it hard to orient yourself and everything is always in a different position.
It's also just not the tile size and color. It's the fucking little things like how close everything is, the flat design that makes it hard to instantly distinguish one app from another (and ew, that fucking photo background thing).
The thing about UI's is that it shouldn't be about how much of a "Power" user you are. UI's are supposed to be as unconscious as possible. They're not supposed to fucking be at the forefront of your attention (now that I think about it, that might be one of the fundamental reason why iOS is so bad. It was created and designed to BE at the center of attention. To be eye catching.) UI's are supposed to naturally guide a person and assist them do what they want. A UI's a fucking failure if your grandma can't use it. If a cat can use your iOS, it's a success.
The search thing is fucking stupid. The 80/20 rule. 80% of things you do are done with 20% of things. That's why you have top menus with the most used functions. That's why the Start Menu had your most used apps instantly there in a small isolated group, rather than in a sea of similar looking icons.
I guess my biggest fucking gripe with flat design is that a big part of design is creating visual HIERARCHY. Again, back to the 80/20 rule. SOME THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, OTHER THINGS AREN'T. How the fuck are you supposed to do that by making everything look the same?!?!?!
It's just really frusturating with both WP and iOS when it seems like the people who designed them put no fucking care in usability, and selfishely chose style.
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Why so much swearing? Microsoft hasn't taken anything away from you, don't like the UI? That's great, you have other choices, which is a good thing about competition.
Millions of other people don't find what you're claiming to be much of an issue at all.
Microsoft tried to be different with "metro". - It's surprising how many people don't like change and instead wan't everything to be clones of each other.
I find it seamless, my grandmother finds it seamless, that's good enough for my use case scenario's. - Everyone is differen't.
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I swear to make emphasis and because I find it ridiculous that a multi billion dollar corporation would ignore basic design principles for such an important product for that company.
Millions of other people are fucking idiots.
And I'm not hating Microsoft because of "change". I hate it for specific purposes that I've laid out. The broad theme being the lack of visual hierarchy with Windows 8.
Here's one last argument that maybe you might agree with.
Instead of framing it whether or not WP is "bad" or "good", would you agree that WP has some significant rooms for improvements due to their lack of visual hierarchy?
Would you agree that it would be better for WP not to do a continuous scrolling because it inteferes with muscle memory (e.g. an app that's at the bottom left of the screen can be at the top)? Would you agree that WP could be improved by maybe having some apps freezable when you scroll?
Pemalite said:
Akvod said:
Is that by Microsoft? It looks like it's from Samsung. And why isn't it pre-installed? To me, 3'rd party apps are no excuse for having a bad UI. |
And yes it is by Samsung, but that shouldn't matter, you got the functionality right there, just a single download away.
One thing I do like about my Windows Phone is how awesome Nokia's camera's are. (for a phone)
The only *real* bad side for me personally is battery life, I only get a half day of heavy use out of it, but that's expected when I'm doing remote desktops to PC's across the nation.
The UI though, I like, it's slick and responsive, no stutters, pauses and is extremely fluid, everything I need is on the start screen without any scrolling and all the information I need is on the glance screen. - Everyone is different, you think it's bad? That's great, you're entitled to that opinion.
I personally think iOS and Android's UI's looks dated and archaic, essentially playing homage to the 90's with their "Icons".
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It does matter because the average user probably won't find and download it. Again, the great majority of people are idiots. Even college educated people are idiots. Hell, I consider myself an idiot in many things, especially tech. That's why shit like user interfaces should be user friendly, and a part of that is being ALREADY INCLUDED!
I think icons are great because they allow developers to make their own icons without breaking the visual consistency that iOS 7 and Windows Phone demands.
I mean, for example, I went to check out the Vaio Flip and when I looked through the Start Menu, the first thing that I noticed was the inconsistency between the Sony app icons and the Windows app icons. The use of gradients, the small little things. It's not that Sony's icon designs are bad, but it's just that Microsoft chose such a specific and very limiting style that it's very hard for anyone to really follow it perfectly. Hell, even having slightly different shades of color for the icon (e.g. light green with gradient vs. the official solid green) makes the design look inconsistent. By having such consistency, it makes any deviation have extreme contrast and give the entire design an unorganized, messy look. And ugh, then you see that random Chrome icon just floating around on the Start Menu, totally out of place.
And the only solution to that problem is for every app to perfectly adopt the official icon style, which only results in so much consistency that there's a lack of visual hierarchy and contrast. The entire Metro principle was designed to have everything blend in together.
And the same fucking applies to iOS 7. So many unnecessary design choices, mainly in response to your little quote about the 90's and outdatedness.
The end result is fucking ugly, but more importantly, it applies the designs blindly when the original designs were done with a functional purpose in mind.
