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kenzomatic said:
Kasz216 said:
kenzomatic said:
Kasz216 said:
Wonktonodi said:
the holy roman empire is not the same as the church you know the saying it wasn't holy it wasn't roman and it wasn't an empire

The head of the effort to bring back the sciences of rome was a holy men.


1st I thought you were a liberal
Next I thought you just hated things supported by religion
Now I believe you just really enjoy debating and arguing, and more so I have a suspection you like to play devils advocate. (which would explain why we clash so much as 2 people playing devils advocate present nothing but counter arguments.)


Nah, i'm a more place blame where it looks like it lies due to what the numbers while blocking out things like "Common Sense".

After all isn't that what people who conduct expierments are supposed to do?

That and a tackle problems at the root person. Religion has likely stunted religion at times, though during that period, what they stunted seemed to be less then what they helped bring back and consequently grow.

Plenty of people and things stunt science though... governments, oil companies... even pharmicutical companys in some ways.

The root problem is that any group of people be it religion, government or girl scouts will squash science and many other things so long as they are big enough to do it and it benefits them.

People in large groups that control everbody without much fear of recourse = bad news.


I Agree with you. So you know I am very prone to play devils advocate. Though I do not enjoy being attacked for it.

Blocking "common sense" is one thing but blocking logic is not good.

I think we have different definitions of logic.  As it would be impossible to complete an expierment or properly deduce the root of problems without logic

The problem is people call things logic that aren't really logical and instread make assumptions about things without their judgements being evident.

The problem is too many peole use inductive reasoning on situations that are far to vast and complex in which to use inductive reasoning despite larger numbers pointing otherwise. 

"Religion always works against scienece" "All chinese food gives me a stomach ache since this did." "This game is in for a big turn around because it's suddenly selling great on Amazon!" 

Well that and people call what really is common sense "logic."

Not to their own faults... I think it's just one of those things who's definition has got muddied as time has gone on.

Logic is much more narrow and smaller then one would think.