I Don't Understand Why People Defend Companies When What They're Doing Is Wrong

[The Fury]

KylieDog said:

@bolded, Is like you cannot even read.  I already shot down that flawed argument.

As to paying to play online, like PS+ or XBL Gold...you are wrong.  The recording feature of PS4/Xbone is built into the hardware, it doesn't cost anything to keep it running except the electricity to power the system, which you pay for.  When you upload you use your own internet connection which you pay for, it is uploaded and hosted on websites not run by Sony or MS so no reason to pay them.

Game servers should be covered by the cost of the individual games.  What does cost Sony/MS money is the running of the PSN or XBL, but these should all be covered by the sales of retail and digital games/DLC, and the cut of the sale the manufacturer takes.

You don't see Steam charging people to pay online, yet it is no different to PSN/XBL.

Yeah you did and I remember reading that too, just for some reason seemed to ignore it when typing my reply, sorry. I still think it stands though, if someone doesn't enjoy the game enough to keep it, you think they'll play those 50 hrs at all? 8 hrs is more likely, leaving 42 hours for the new owner. I understand the reasoning behind charging for online passes but don't agree with them as they are just punishments for legitmate gamers while the real reason they are exist are because of pirates.

The intergration was not free. You think all the development of the system, the ability to upload to existing social media outlets and Live Streaming cost nothing?All require some kind of input and development. Sadly the industry is no longer a 'buy console and play' industry. There are many things to consider. 

 

It's strange to think that your first post was saying that it costs money to run servers, then you say this should be in the cost of games, yet an online pass isn't in the cost of the game, it's extra (if you buy it) and PSN and Xbox Live are run by servers, yet we don't buy games to pay for this. Although countering my own arguement, we buy the system and guy digital games from the stores, this should pay for the costs of running the servers.

But lets not get this wrong, I understand why they charge but entirely disagree with paying to play games online, I certainly won't be paying any time soon. It's a joke of an idea that has somehow stuck.