bouzane said:
SocialistSlayer said:
Vikki said:
SocialistSlayer said:
Vikki said:
SocialistSlayer said:
economic policy?
expanding the welfare state, lengthening unemployement benefits. Socialized heathcare. increasing taxes on everybody, especially higher income earners. "spreading the weath around" he was a member of a communist party. increasing spending on everything, at a higher rate than anybody before him. him continually proping up business that the government seems worthy, especially of the "green" variety. most/all turning out to be economicall unsolvible.
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These are all true. But he's still a conservative. Americans seem to have this very black and white view of politics. They seem to think you're either liberal or conservative, which is a load of crap. You can have some conservative values and still be liberal. You can have some liberal values, like Obama does, but still be a conservative.
The only true liberals to really run for president in the US in recent memory have been the likes of Jill Stein and Ralph Nader.
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you seem to not know what the word conservative means
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In the rest of the world, conservatism can endore the wellfare state. Even in the 1960's, British conservatives loved the idea of a wellfare state. Obama also cut taxes for middle class families. I'd like to see this proof that Obama was a member of a communist party, even if he was, views can change.
Obama has kept troops in Afghan longer than he promised and is going to have them in there for much longer. He's increased drone strikes. He's pursued more whistleblowers than Bush did. He kept Guantanimo Bay open. He's kept the USA's hypocritical foreign policies against Cuba open. He's kept the US aggressive and hypocritical foreign policy and general going.
If he was progressive he would stop this ridiculous drug law which has been failling for decades.
He is not a progressive.
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at boled no he didnt.
New Party - chicago. communist party, he was a member of.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_Barack_Obama#Taxation
Now a days Obama is about as close to being a communist as I am to being a talking sofa.
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so that means today i not only discovered we have girls on these forums (vikki), we also have a sofa.
my point stands
