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rocketpig said:
Kasz216 said:
Oh, and furthermore... after the Christians got together again, the greedy Crusades actually brought them into contact with the technology and books that helped boost europes knowledge back up...

Mostly by newly universitys supported by... the Holy Roman Empire again. Organized religion did a lot more then any other group to bring back science actually.

And most of those advancements happened after the Dark Ages. I don't think anyone here is seriously arguing that the church didn't fund a lot of scientific research during the Renaissance.


Yet had their not of been a church and religion in general would the renaissance have happened?

Without religion most of these sources would not have been in peoples hands.