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mmnin on 08 March 2008
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rocketpig said:
mmnin said:

As far as scientists being apprehensive toward ID, have you ever considered that the tables have turned and people who believe in ID might be the Galileo or Columbus of today?


That is insanity. The entire difference between ID and scientists is the quest for knowledge.

Scientists are constantly testing, checking, and changing their opinions on various matters. Believers in ID still hold fast and true to a book that was written when the scientific community still believed that mice spawned from rotten fruit like maggots.

One has shown a bit of progress over the past 1500 years. The other still holds true to that 1500 year old book.

Comparing a man like Galileo or Columbus (seriously, did he really even do anything?) to ID supporters is not only insulting, but patently false.


As you have seen from Ben Stein's trailor, there are tons of scientists who are on a quest for knowledge who do not completely accept evolution. I seek knowledge every day that I get up in the morning and I believe that evolution makes some reasonable suggestions, but just because you agree with one standpoint of a Presidential candidate, it doesn't mean he should be elected into office.

There are two groups of people who believe in ID: Those that believe in it because it was written in a religious text and those who have searched for an answer with evolution or other ideas and have come to the conclusion that ID is still the best explaination. Yes, ID is very general, it doesn't specify. How can it??? If ID is true, you would have to see who or what race started it all. That is not possible, but that does not mean it isn't right. To discredit or give credit to something that you cannot prove or disprove is true ignorance. If you believe in Evolution for the simple fact that there is more associative evidence, it shows that you are simply a slave to the system. Why do you think Evolution exists? Stop a moment and think outside the box. Darwin made observations and theorized about Evolution. This is an unproven theory based on OBSERVATION and ASSOCIATION. OF COURSE it is going to have some amount of evidence to support it, the observations and associations! You know how everyone gets mad on these boards when someone makes a stupid topic that cherry picks certain bits of information from the chartz or around their local stores and makes extreme claims. Well that is EXACTLY what Evolution is at it's core.