Ben Stein to take on Darwinism on April 18

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rocketpig said:

Smidlee said:

rocketpig said:

 

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- The Spanish Inquisition says "hi".

- Religion controlled science during most of the Medieval period. Not surprisingly, it's one of the most dormant scientific times in human history, despite the fact that wars were abundant and everyone was in a battle of one sort or another. It wasn't until the Renaissance when the Catholic Church first starting seeing its stranglehold on the public loosen that we saw the emergence of true science.

- Did you seriously reference a video game as historical fact?

Can a game add in historical facts ? Yes it can.

Also I notice you said "True science". When it can to science even Spain ignore the Pope. Kind of like trying to stop people from pirating PC games as science offered too much to turn away from it.

Also one of the greatest invention of all time came about during this period which open the doors to a whole new world; The printing press. Even in Medieval times there were great leaps in knowledge as now finally man had an invention to make print easier and faster then ever before. Knowledge started to increase greatly after the printing press just as the internet/ cable/satellies open up new doors of information today. To say they didn't have "true science " when comparing to ours is like saying they didn't have "true weapons"(guns) when compared to ours.

The printing press is an invention, not science. My statement still holds true about Medieval times. Take astronomy, for example. Huge advances were made during Roman times and then very little happened until the Renaissance and Copernicus. The Medieval period was a black hole for the scientific community.

The Spanish Inquisition may not have been ordered by the Pope, but that's not what you said in your OP. You mentioned "the pope or anyone else" in reference to religious figures. The Spanish Inquisition was fueled by religious figures, was it not? Did they not constrain scientific figures and ban scientific texts?

When I reference "true science", I mean science unhindered by outside influences. If science was contrained by religion during Medieval times, it's hard to consider it "true science". Even many of the Renaissance scientific discoveries were hindered and challenged by a powerful religious state. It's only been in the last two centuries that we have seen a scientific community fueled by their own will and desire for knowledge.

Sure, you can use video games as reference but that doesn't mean it's correct, especially when you use it to try to prove that most scientific advancements happen during wartime. It's akin to using the movie The Day After Tomorrow to prove the science behind global warming.

 

It not even that scientific progress was slowed or stopped during medieval times.  Its that we went backwards hundreds of years.  The Greeks and Romans were far more advanced civilizations than anything up until the Renaissance.  We lost alot of knowledge during this time period.  Religion played a central role in this process.