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You can say whatever of this guy but in the end is the bitter true, 60 dollar for a game and still you need to pay  almost right away  to get some new cars?! is freaking ridiculous, and not only that you not even get the same visuals as this past E3 Forza 5 presentation downgraded alot, GT 6 is around the corner and it probably rival or maybe even surpass Forza 5 visuals, and I'm not even kidding!!