Lol. Typical DMC4 fan, whenever you can't answer something you say something like that to justify DMC4.
Except I did answer it. I wrote an entire paragraph in response, right under that sentence.
Are you even reading these posts, or just writing whatever comes to mind?
Lol. Capcom also say DmC Dante is Dante? Does that make it true? No, not exactly. It dosen't work like that. DMC fans know that Dante has changed in every game.
Except Capcom didn't say that. They've repeatedly said DmC Dante is from another universe. If they did say that DmC was in the same universe as DMC, and that it was a prequel instead of a reboot, yes, that would make them the same character.
Besides, Reuben Langdon, the voice actor for DMC3/4 Dante has confirmed that Capcom asked him to play DMC4 Donte differently from previous iterations of the character. So theres your confirmation. Capcom wanted DMC4 Dante to be portrayed differently from preceeding iterations.
...and your point? Robert Downey Jr. was told to play Tony Stark differently in Iron Man 3 than Iron Man 1 and 2. Does that make Tony Stark a different character inbetween the two movies?
All you're doing is arguing that DMC4 Dante is different in some way, which I've repeatedly agreed on. The issue is the degree of difference.
Exactly, without Hideki Kamiya DMC would not exist. To deny his views on the series is to deny what it means for Devil May Cry to be Devil May Cry. The only way you can justify DMC4 as a good game is by undermining the previous games in the series. Typical DMC4 fan behaviour.
And how exactly have I undermined it?
Kamiya isn't in charge of the series anymore. I appreciate what he's done for DMC, as well as Viewtiful Joe and Okami, but the fact of the matter is his opinions are no longer canon for the series. If he said that Dante was suddenly a magic blowfish that had a fetish for cheesticks, would denying that be denying what it means for DMC to be DMC?
Same point as before. You need to undermine Hideki Kamiya's work on the original games to justify the changes that were made to accomodate DMC4; your first DMC game. Dosen't work like that. Hideki Kamiya's work exists whether you like it or not; you can't change that for DMC4 to exist Capcom had to cut his work out of cannon. That dosen't make DMC4 a good game unfortunately.
You do love your straw men, don't you?
I have never once declared that DMC1 or DMC3 was a bad game, or that they don't exist, or anything else that you're accusing me of. All I've stated is the (fairly obvious) fact that DMC1 and 3 Dante were both cheesy and over the top. I'm not trying to get rid of his work, despite your silly insistence to the contrary. However, he doesn't have control of the series any longer.
Actually DmC features the series first maunal lock on; compared to the automatic lock on of previous games. You need to undermine DmC because you know DMC4 is garbage. DMC4 simply cannot stand on its own merits, hence why you need to lie for your camp homo. Hideaki Itsuno has already confirmed that he and Capcom Japan designed DmC to improve on the weaknesses of DMC4. Which was not a fun game. The only way you can be right is if you are calling Hideaki Itsuno a liar? Which is it DMC4 fan?
You completely lost all credibility at this point.
Let's go over the terms "manual" and "automatic," shall we?
Manual means having to do something by entering some form of command to change circumstances. Automatic means said something is done automatically. In DMC4(and all of its predecessors) you have to press a button in order to lock on to an enemy. DmC has the player automatically lock on. It will pick an enemy for you to focus on based on what you're closest to and what direction you're moving.
You can read this entire discussion on it if you're not convinced.
Anyway, the fact that you didn't even know that DMC4 had a manual lock on convinces me that either you have no grasp at all on the English language or you've just never played the previous DMC games. Which is it?
Now I know you are a lying DMC4 fan and nothing more. Anyone who's played the previous DMC games would know how DmC drastically improves on the previous games.
Except for, you know, all those Devil May Cry fans who played it and didn't like it.
And, right, of course. The classic "anyone who doesn't share my opinion is a liar." Watertight argument you got going there.
Maybe you could look up a guide on debate tactics while you're researching the meanings behind the words "automatic" and "manual."
Hence why the camp homo is not Dante. He's inconsistant with previous incarnations. If you look at other games like say God of War, Kratos is a consistant character. His personality inherently changes in conjuction with his natural character traits. He also looks the same in every game. DMC4 Donte dosen't actually look like Dante, nor does he behave like him. Like I said you need to do what your doing now, because you know DMC4 simply cannot stand on its own merits. Its not good enough to be in the same league as DMC1.
Well, you had no credibility before. Now that you're seriously referencing God of War as a positive example of storytelling, you have negative credibility.
At any rate, your argument seems to be "Dante changed, and since he's different he must not be the same character."
I wasn't aware character development is illegal in the land where automatic and manual have reversed meaning.
Dont' know who your reffering to.
Oh, you know, maybe this guy.
Seriously, you expect me to believe you've played Devil May Cry 3 when you didn't even know that?
The fact is DMC1 Dante never wore red cowboy boots, he never made homoerotic poses. He was never a camp homosexual. Thats not Dante. It never was.
You should probably do some work on your definition of "homosexual" as well.
Its not relevant to the thread. Your only interested in attacking Ninja Theory because the only way you can justify DMC4 continuing is by underming DmC and the previous DMC games. Hence why you have come here. The only way you have a case is if DmC was a bad game, because DMC4 simply cannot stand on its own merits. You can simply tell people to decide for themselves which they like, but you can't let that happen; you need lie for DMC4 because you know DMC4 stands no chance in a balanced comparasion to the previous games and DmC.
Well, at least you've admitted that you were the one who brought DMC4 into the thread. That's a step up from COMPLETELY lying.
Even if DMC4 was a completely awful game, I still wouldn't like DmC. DmC is a big step back for combat, a horrible attempt at storytelling, and an even worse attempt at making deep and engaging characters while ridding us of a protagonist who was arguably one of the funniest ones around. Considering we're in an age where the average video game protagonist is a silent military veteran who's only expressable emotion is quiet determination, it's a sad loss.
To be fair, I thought DMC4 was the second worst game in the series until DmC came around.
I get the sense that you have some sort of vendetta against DMC4, and you feel the need to accuse everyone who doesn't like DmC of being a DMC4 fanboy.









