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greenmedic88 said:

babuks said:

Teriol said:
a middle range RIG that's the ps4. if graphics are the selling point well a pc from 2 or 3 years ago is more powerfull and can produce better graphics.

But you can't compare them directly, console games are optimized for a certain hardware environment, whilst the pc games are not.

One could objectively test that statement by simply running something like Battlefield 4, CoD Ghosts or Assassin's Creed 4 on a PC from 2-3 years ago (or just looking up performance numbers on Tom's) and comparing the performance numbers to the posted performance numbers from the PS4, which are readily available. 

My guess would be it would take a middle/high end gaming PC from 2-3 years ago (using a VGA card that was probably in the $300-400 range) with a total build cost of around $800 to provide similar numbers, and that's being generous. 

If anyone wants to look it up, be my guest; the info is already out there. 

So comparing an $800 box (just the CPU, as builds never include the cost of input devices or OS) in 2010-11 dollars to a $400 all inclusive box being sold in 2013 is an iffy comparison at best. 

Well a Radeon 5870 even today is no slouch, They're about 4 years old now too.

However, if you wanted to make the comparison fair, you need to lower the image quality downwards so it matches the consoles. - Thus using Battlefield 3/4 probably isn't the wisest of choices as even on low they still do some effects that aren't on the HD twins.
Comparatively, the Playstation 4 isn't even running Battlefield 4 at max graphics either, merely just high equivalent settings and at a lower resolution.

Still a high-end/enthusiast class PC from 4 years ago is still substantually faster than the PS4, mid-range is a differen't matter entirely where the Radeon 5770/5750 (Also re-badged as the 6770/6750) is certainly showing it's age, but still handles pretty much all games fine at 720P.

From a quick look around youtube, the 5870 can pull anywhere from 30-40fps with a mix of high and ultra settings at full 1080P, considering it's 4 years old and is still handling games that are running on a PS4 but with better graphics, it's not a bad showing.
Those cards were also pretty darn cheap before being replaced by the 6900 series, like $200-$300 cheap.

Lets not forget that over time the PC can be cheaper anyway if you play your cards right.
Basically if you bought/Built the PC in 2009, you would have had 4 years of extra "Next generation level graphics" out of it when compared to the new consoles, to some that's worth the extra initial outlay, but everyone is different.