Ben Stein to take on Darwinism on April 18

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mmnin said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:
I can believe whatever I want! I believe that you're stupid and what you believe is stupid and you should die! Whoa whoa, don't use science to prove me wrong. Science needs facts, and I only need faith. You can't prove faith wrong, so I'm right. Erego, die in a fire.

That's directed at everybody on both sides. Really, go die. I'm right. But believe whatever you want.

Amen. (lol). But you do have a good point, both are beliefs. But i'm making the point that just because a majority of scientists believe something, we should not accept it as truth anymore than we should accept something as truth just because our pastor told us so. As intelligent people we should be able to assess all situations and be prepared to question the common beliefs if they do not justly add up to what we have observed or "not" observed. We can acknowledge them as possible theories since they could or could not be based on current evidence, but they should not be set as the law of all things under a human foot.

 please dont ever say that ID is a scientific theory.  a scientific theory is as close to a scientific fact as possible.  gravity is a theory, relativity is a theory.  its one thing to have a belief in something, but to push it as a theory or just a theory is the wrong thing to say. It proves ignorance.

 to become a scientific theory it has to be thoroughly tested and have pretty much no other explanation that fits the data as of now.

also, to claim that ID is a science is wrong.  science is a process.  it involves taking a guess, trying to prove it, then improving the guess based on data, and repeating the processes until no improvement is possible.  ID states that we are how we are based on something which we cant test for.  i believe that people have the right to believe in ID, but not to push it in any way, shape, or form in the science classroom.