Whether there are enough to you or not, you seem to failing to grasp, thats your opinion.
And you seem to have forgotten that this is a debate based ENTIRELY on opinion. Though I might add it's an opinion shared by me and virtually everyone who spurned DmC.
Wrong again. DMC1 Dante was never cheesy.
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Oh you were serious.
He never went over the top.
Yes, precisely. Getting stabbed all the way through with a sword and then slowly floating yourself out of it, or telling a gigantic bird to "flock off," or screaming at the top of his lungs about dark souls and light after running into a dead girl, or flying away from an exploding castle in an airplane in true RE fashion is most definitely not over the top.
The reason you need to claim he did was to undermine previous iterations of Dante. The reason you need to do that is because DMC4 was so poor quality on its own, the only way you can condemn DmC and praise DMC4 is by undermining the previous games in the franchise. Its typical behvaiour from fans who only started playing DMC with DMC4, thinking that they can impose whatever rules they want because they wanted that Twilight game to continue.
If I was really concerned about DmC as a game, all I would need to do is talk about its combat and the massive step backwards that took, or the awful attempt at writing and a societal commentary, or the insipid focus on the platforming, or the awful boss fights that even DMC2 did a better job at. I'm picking a very small window at which to attack DmC on, and its through their characterization of Dante.
DmC is a reboot, a seperate continutity. The point of that was to overhaul the character... Have you not been paying attention DMC4 fan?
I've been paying perfect attention, but apparently, you haven't.
If you would, recall the string of logic that led us to this. Your claim was that Dante was changed in every game, saying DMC4 Dante was just as dramatically changed as DmC Dante. I countered that by saying no, DMC4 Dante was recognizable and DmC Dante was much less so. You responded with a straw man of ridiculous proportions, and I countered that by explaining the difference between altering a character to make up for a gap in time and completely changing it.
...and now you're accusing me of forgetting it's a reboot or something.
There in lies your problem. DMC4 is supposed to be the same character in that series of games. Hence its unacceptable they made such drastic changes to him. DmC is a reboot, hence theres no correlation between why he would be exactly the same as DMC1 Dante. I'm grateful Ninja Theory didn't turn him into a camp jester, with homosexual red cowboy boots, making homoerotic poses. That is simply not Dante.
Never mind, you were paying attention. Then I really have to wonder why you even bothered to ask the above question.
At any rate, beyond this point it's entirely subjective. Though quite honestly, especially considering DMC3, I'm not sure why DMC4 is such a massive step up in craziness level for Dante. I thought the two flowed fine.
Lol. You have to make up stuff to justify DMC4 being a good game. It was abyismal writing at best. Nero was an emo. His origin was never explained in the game because the game featured a terrible story.
I never said it had a good story. In fact, I think splitting the protagonists was one of the worst parts of the game. It should have been either Dante or Nero solely, and if it was Nero, he should've gotten a bit more development.
That said, DMC4 is enjoyable because it's the most refined version of the DMC combat system to date, particularly with Dante. On the fly style switching, being able to flip between any weapon at any time, 60 FPS, pure hack and slash bliss. It looks beautiful, and it performs wonderfully.
You don't even realise for DMC3 and DMC4 to exist Capcom have to remove the pre-exisiting DMC novels from cannon. The original DMC creators never made sequels to the DMC games, hence why the timeline and the style of the games is inconsistant throughout the series. Yet you ignored that because you started playing with DMC4.
Well, first off, since you're insisting on believing things that simply aren't true, I'm going to belive that from here on out you are a sparkly pink unicorn with a fetish for donuts.
How are you, Mr. Sparkly Pink Unicorn?
Secondly, are we discussing Dante at this point, or DMC4's story? Like I said, I don't care for DMC4's story. That's not the topic of debate here. If you want to make a rant against DMC4 as a game, go do so on another thread. DMC4's Dante is really the only part that wasn't gameplay/graphics that I enjoyed, and to that end I'll certainly defend him against Donte.
But if you just want to yell about DMC4's story, then go do so elsewhere.
