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Too bad the german kinect didn't work well for them. It works amazing for me and really impressed all the friends who dropped by. I have a die hard PS3 friend who still thinks there's DRM with Xbox One and won't buy Xbox One because of that but when he saw it working he was impressed. I told him I don't care what he bought and if he likes PS3 games better then buy a PS4 but no need to try to convince me as I'll buy it when I find games I like come on the market. Gaming console is like mobile phones these days. We have Fandroids and iSheep trying to convince the other side which is better and why the other's phone sucks. Why can't people just enjoy their choice and leave it at that? I mean if we only look at specs to determine whether a game is fun or not then are we writing off Nintendo and preferring a single console vendor? In the past 6 months I've had more fun playing Candy Crush and Plants vs. Zombies and those games don't need 1080p nor 60fps.