A203D said:
So your argument is that just because the motion capture person and voice actor are different, means he's an entirely new character? No, the motion and voice actor was ASKED to play the character differently from his previous iterations. Thats why he's a different character from the first game. Even if he didn't say that, you only need to play the DMC games to realise that Dante changes in every game. DmC is another iteration of the character. In the way Michael Keaton's Batman was very different from George Clooney's. Prending DMC4 Dante hasn't changed to excuse DMC4 is retarded. Anyway, no, the same complaint doesn't apply, becuase Dante in the previous DMC series isn't meant to be some sort of deep, empathizable character. DmC Dante is a different Dante in a different iteration of the series. DmC is not Devil May Cry, its Devil may Cry. Its a reboot that takes place in a seperate continuity, this Dante is different because he's intended to be that way. Not to say that he's never serious, but gosh, if you're going to claim that there's no way to recognize DMC4 Dante from DMC1 Dante, I'm going to have to question whether you actually played either game. If your going to claim theres no way to regonise elements of the previous Dante's in DmC Dante, then I'm going to question whether you actually know anything about Devil May Cry. Getting mad at older Dante for not being an incredibly developed character DMC1 and DMC3 Dante did actually feature some character development. The writers did make the player emphatic with Dante's story somewhat. The reason you didn't know that is because you only started playing DMC with DMC4. No one's 'mad' at older Dante. We're confused as to how you can mistake this camp imposter making homosexual poses as Dante:
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This seems to be a point which you're having an incredibly difficult time grasping, so I'll go over it once more.
It's not a matter of whether there are any recognizable elements in a character or not. It's a matter of whether there are enough. Using the example I mentioned before, if Phoenix Wright was remade into a pot smoking, drinking, dancing polka bear, but kept his sarcastic sense of humor, that would NOT be enough recognizable traits.
It's the same way that old Dante keeps his silly, over the top sense of humor with cheesy one liners in every iteration of the games except for DMC2. Is he crazier in DMC4? Sure, I'm not going to deny that. He's certainly different than before. There's a difference though between altering a character somewhat and drastically overhauling a character.
Not that I would have minded a dramatic overhaul of Dante, except that everything DmC did to him was for the worst. They took his funny one liners and turned them into a string of curse words, they took him from a successful businessman to someone who brings strippers to his trailer to have casual sex with, and his new idea of cool is to just hurl insults without any sense of subtlety or placement.
Prending DMC4 Dante hasn't changed to excuse DMC4 is retarded.
Prending?
Assuming you mean pretending, no, once again, I'm not pretending that he hasn't changed. I've never once said that DMC4 Dante is the same, just that he's similar. Much, much more similar than DmC Dante, I might add.
DmC Dante is a different Dante in a different iteration of the series. DmC is not Devil May Cry, its Devil may Cry. Its a reboot that takes place in a seperate continuity, this Dante is different because he's intended to be that way.
Which is exactly my point. DmC Dante is supposed to be a more empathizable Dante, who is supposed to tell a deep, meaningful story and make a connection to the player. It completely fails on every level there. That's why it's poorly done.
DMC1 and DMC3 Dante did actually feature some character development. The writers did make the player emphatic with Dante's story somewhat. The reason you didn't know that is because you only started playing DMC with DMC4. No one's 'mad' at older Dante.
Yeah, character development in DMC. I remember that and how absolutely great it was, with brilliant lines such as:
"I should've been the one to bring your dark soul to liiiiggghhhhhttttt!!!"
and
"And now...my soul...is saying it wants to stop you!"
Yeah, DMC4 was missing a whole lot by not leaving that in.
Anyway, even if the older Devil May Cry games somehow did have amazing character development, that still wouldn't be a valid complaint. DMC4 takes place a fair amount of time after DMC1, and even longer after DMC3. There's no official time scales involved, but I'd wager it's at least ten years between 3 and 4, even longer if you subscribe to the "Nero is Vergil's son" theory.
By this point in time, Dante's been through so many traumatic moments in his life, losing both a brother and his mother, that his character is essentially developed to its fullest point. There isn't much the writers could do with his character to dramatically change him, and even if they did, it would almost assuredly be a step back, like Raiden halfway through MGR.
I don't want to only reference Ace Attorney, but once again I think it works as a great example here. PW hardly receives any character development in the latest game, and that's because he's gone through so many crazy experiences that his character has been developed to its fullest. There's nowhere to go with his character in terms of meaningful development, and changing it would just be moving backwards along the maturity arc.
