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Figgycal on 24 November 2013
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The demand for the Vita isn't very high, I wouldn't expect the bundle to sell if it is above $500 and even then it'd be because people want the PS4 - nobody wants the Vita.


It sold 160000 units last week and you can seriously say this?

Because of Japan. U.S. sales are pittiful and Europe sales aren't all that hot. Sony would be hurting themselves if they forced this as the only PS4  sku.

160,000 people isn't nobody. Doesn't matter what region those people live in.

For one thing Japan's numbers included the Vita T.V. - not just the Vita consoles to boost its numbers. The Vita also hasa low demand in Japan compared to the 3ds. Also I'm pretty sure the OP was specifically talking about the U.S. where the Vita is barely selling.

And? It's a different model of the Vita. Should the 2DS not count towards 3DS sales? Even then, IIRC Vita TV only did 40k, meaning 120k for Vita. Still good numbers.

What does the Vita having lower demand than the 3DS have to do with anything? Either the Vita must be wanted just as much as the 3DS or nobody wants it? That's a false dichotomy if I've ever seen one. I suppose nobody wanted the PSP either, despite selling 80m units, because it had low demand compared to the DS, right?

And he specifically talked about this bundle coming to EU, so why would you assume he was just talking about the U.S.?

I'm not saying that the Vita T.V. sales don't matter. I'm saying that it doesn't necessarily show demand for the handheld - they serve different purposes. Aside from the name and being able to play games, they're completely different products. The same can't be said of the 2ds and 3ds or their sucess in Japan where Nintendo has a comfortable lead. The gap between the PSP and DS and the Vita and 3ds is not at all the same. At least with the PSP you could say it was a sucess - with the Vita it's just another sign of failure.

And sorry, I should've put that I was specifically talking about U.S. Yes it sold 160k, but only 14k in the U.S. It's my bad for misreading the first post; I thought he was asking if the bundle were to be the only one available on black friday in the U.S., would it sell? And that the question about the bundle releasing in Europe was a seperate one.