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stof said:
A question to the creationists, if the underlying belief is that biological organisms are far too complicated to have occurred randomly, and that surely some intelligent and powerful creator being is responsible for our existence, wouldn't said creator being be far more complicated?

Surely a being capable of creating life is too complex to have just occurred. So who created the creator? And wouldn't that being also be far too complicated to just occur? So who created that being? and wouldn't a being capable of creating a being capable of creating a being capable of creating all life on earth be far too complex to just occur? And if *you get where I'm going with this*

That's the whole idea that something greater than materialism. Have any scientist ever seen a black hole at any time? No but they do have reason for believing of their existance. The same with understanding of the natural world teaches us everything seems to be running down. It's like asking " Can a human with all of his knowledge ever produce his equal? "