Escherichia said:
timmah said:
godf said:
It is possible to have a high IQ and be a creationist. But it is stupid to believe in creationism, and the weakness of the arguments you bring up only serves to highlight this. re DNA being a code, and a code being a sign of intelligence. Scientists have already found repeating codes in radio waves coming from space: these were naturally occurring however, and not a sign of intelligence. This is just a confusion over words: we can call DNA a 'code', and the codes we come across in our day to day life are likely to have been created by an intelligence. But our labelling of DNA as a code indicates nothing about it's likely origins. Newtonian physics are really only an approximation as to what's really happening. But regardless, at the time of the big bang the laws of physics seem to have been operating very differently to how they do now, under massively different circumstances. The law of entropy? When we're orbiting the sun? The energy required for a single cell organism is the least problematic part of the origin of life. There is a very really possibility that you are quite stupid. |
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Completely out of line and totally uncalled for. I've not insulted you or called anyone stupid, because that's not debate, it's just rude. Personal insults are just low and immature. This isn't my first time on the site, so don't think of me as a new poster you can just push around, I've just created a new account because I can't get into my old one, I do know how to use the 'report this post' button. And yes, with a 148 IQ, a degree in Computer Science, a successfull 65K/year job as a senior Network Engineer before 30, A's in AP Biology, physics, pre-calc, and chemistry, I'm a complete idiot. Ya got me. I'm seriosly done with this thread now. |
Yeah, that was way outta line. Let me just say this though with a little more tact than our rather crude friend. I have an IQ in the 150-160 range, I have a Bachelors in Biology and am working on a Masters in Biology and would very much like that to lead to Med-School. That doesn't mean that I'm not ignorant of things like say, engineering, or economics, of these things I have no clue...okay i know a little but I'm no expert. For that matter I'm not an expert on Biology either, but I happen to know a fair bit more about it than someone who has a 180 IQ and has never really studied biology. I wouldn't say your stupid, but you might be ignorant of biology. Huh, I guess that could be an insult too huh, well I'm not an expert at debate either.
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Well said and appreciated. I did well in biology in high school (7 years ago), but wouldn't claim to know as much as you on the subject (that doesn't mean I can't debate the origin of the universe with you, though
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It's just that the origin of the universe is so difficult to really understand simply because it's not documented by our understanding. It's tough to explain the effects of the beginning without having several explanations that fit. For people to say that believing in god or that he created the world is 'stupid' is a little rediculous.
I have a great amount of respect for honest debators like you and sqrl, even though I don't agree with you. You both seem to really know your stuff, and I wish I had more time to read up on these subjects so I could make this a real debate. Unfortunately I have a wife, a life, a job, and have to read more about PCs and Servers than mitochondria and amoebas.
Ok, I seriously gots to go. I already spent all day staring at a computer screen and I'm starting to go blind.
