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kowenicki said:

"it sets a precedent for next-gen racing simulations by virtue of simply planting the flag in the soil first."

....so it is currently definitive.

good.

Only because it's the only one out there, as they said.  Yea, that's not a hollow victory, at all.  

And if I'm not mistaken, weren't you one of the ones who said that the Forza downgrades were just a BS rumor?  Guess it wasn't.

@ OP

It's pretty ridiculous that MS tried to fool everyone with the early PC builds of games.  That's 10 times worse than the target render fiasco from the PS3's launch.  At least Sony didn't have a Motorstorm demo at E3 running on a supped up PC that actually looked like that, to only release later with the true PS3 version.