godf said:
timmah said:
godf said:
dabaus513 said:
I dont think its so much as "creationist propaganda" (whatever that is) but more a documentary of how if a scientist dare question darwin's theory (emphasis on theory) of evolution they are ridiculed and lose their jobs. I think it's pointing out the irony that people who claim to be "open minded" are only open minded towards things that they agree with and if anyone dare question it then they are trying to create propaganda or other such bullcrap excuses. |
What evidence are creationists brining to the debate? Nothing more than their own faith. If they were purely evidence based scientists, that would be fine. To try to deliberately misrepresent evolution, or try to present any current gap in our understanding as a fatal flaw... people aren't going to keep falling for that. Almost as soon as scientists started looking at the claims of ID, they were able to take them apart. There will always be some areas of uncertainty, but ID proponents have already been pushed far back from where they started. How much more attention should they be given? |
HEY! *knock knock*! Anybody there?? Did you read my earlier post?? We don't just bring 'our own faith', and where's the evidence you're bringing? All I've heard so far from you people is attacks on the intelligence of creationists and bigoted notions of what 'all of us' are like. That's your fatal flaw. You don't want to debate anybody on the merits of their arguments or positions, just to group us all into one big group of blind morons and write us off without so much as using one bit of intelligent debate to do so. I'm done with this thread, as I see there is nobody here who is willing to actually debate (not insult and demean). Edit: @dabaus513, don't expect too much actual debate on this issue. You're right, most of the self-proclaimed 'open minded' ones are the quickest to lump people into a group and insult them in order to avoid real debate when they don't agree. Notice godf basically said we aren't even worth talking to and should be ignored. You just can't debate people like that, they have nothing of any substance to say at all. Notice that nobody has actually countered a point, but just regurgitated biased insults on the 'stupid creationists'. |
I can't reply to every post at once. I've done yours now. Happy? |
No. I was never bothered by you not replying to me. I'm bothered by you and so many others here doing things like lumping all creationists into one group, insulting our intelligence, mocking us, calling our ideas 'nonsense' to quote another user, and just being derogatory and condesceding in general. It's the tone with which you type that shows you think you are intellectually superior to the 'dumb creationists' just by the merit of how you view the facts. I will in no way call darwinists stupid, lump them into a group, call their ideas nonsense, etc. It's just not the way to debate. That's what bothers me.
