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marley on 21 November 2013
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DerNebel said:
marley said:
DerNebel said:

Is this about third party publishers not supporting the Wii U? Cause that is Nintendo fans' fault not anyone elses.


Nintendo fans have been condition for decades that third party offerings are subpar and Nintendo games are consistently top notch.  Is it really their fault for not picking up a $50 game that they expect to be subpar, when there's a Nintendo game sitting next to it that they know will be top notch quality? 

Besides, the majority of Nintendo fans also game on other platforms, which consistently has the better multiplat version.

*On topic, power is definitely not needed to make great games.  However, I believe that 3rd parties DO need more power to make better games.  I think they need it to cover up what would otherwise be very mediocre games.  The gen just started though, and there will be amazing games on both the ps4 and xb1, which will be made even better by that extra power. ...

Yes, if Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo software for the Wii U, then it is their fault if the publishers don't want to support it. That whole "expecting games to be subpar"-point is mute since we live in a time where most people carry a device with them, through which they can easily check hundreds of different opinions on games before deciding which to buy. So if Nintendo fans only want Nintendo games, then that's what they'll get, they just shouldn't complain about it.


I don't think it is a moot point.  CoD on Ps2 only sold a couple million units because it was new to the userbase.  It's the same situation on Nintendo consoles.  Regardless of what a game gets reviewed, if you have no connection to it (or if your connection has always been negative/dissapointing) you're not likely going to buy it.  If you're disspointed in the first iteration of anything, you're not going to buy the sequel (let alone take time to care about it's reviews)

Third parties won't just randomly end up with a userbase to sell to, they have to foster it.  It's no different than any other product in the world.  Movies don't just sell well because they are highly rated.  A lot of highly rated movies don't sell well at all.  A lot of poorly rated movies sell great.  It all depends on if the studio promotes and fosters interest in their product.  Third parties have done a great job promoting and fostering interest in their product on Sony and Microsoft platforms - not so much on Nintendos.  Blaming the consumer for that is outrageous.  Blame Nintendo if you want (it's partly their fault), but to pretend 3rd parties didn't have a hand in it is nothing more than wilfull ignorance.