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Schreckofant said:
JEMC said:
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So a European union would be just like that: A spanish area, a french area or a german area (even though we don't really have a real culture) and so on. I really don't see aproblem. The EU is actually already working on the Unification or why do you think so many things have been centralized recently and why they want to hand over more and more political and financial power towards Brussel?

That should be the best solution, not an union or becoming a single, big country but a confederation of countries.

Unfortunately, what this crisis has proven is that every country has been more worried about themselves even if that meant going against the EU they had pursued.

Schreckofant said:

And integration is not so easy. Lots of people simply refuse to learn the language of the country they're in or refuse getting proper education. And you cannot really force them if you don't want to throw them out on the streets or let them starve to death (german welfare system does not allow that ofc). But it's still getting better, most of the younger people around have already adepted quite well compared to their parents (who didn't lift a finger for integration and basically did everything to prevent their children to integrate as well) and I think it might improve again within the next generation.

Law is law, first and foremost. Here there's a law that forces kids to go to school until they're 16, when they can join the labor market (I'm confident Germany and other countries have something similar), and if someone doesn't want to do it, they aren't good parents and the authorities must act. Here, that has happened at least a couple of times that I remember.

I agree that you can't force anyone, that's why I said that authorities must welcome them . But that can only be done with people that life in another country. You can't change the culture and habits of a country from the outside. See all the countries in the north of Africa where lots of families have relatives in Europe (mostly France) from many, many years and they still keep their culture.

Schreckofant said:

Things can change so fast these days, I really wouldn't be surprised if some european nations with similar premise formed a bigger nations within a decade or two. Especially if the situation doesn'r improve - and right now it doesn't look like it. Lots of nations are just slowly dying an econimcal death. Spain seems to have new problems with local areas like Catalonia rebelling against the political central as well, or at least that's what the media over he said a couple of days ago.

Trust me, that's a whole problem by itself that has to do more with the stupid polititians we have rather that anything else.



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