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JEMC said:

Schreckofant said:

JEMC said:

Immigration is only used by some people (who I'm not going to describe as I'd get banned) to generate hate saying that people have no job because immigrants take it, or that wages are small because immigrants work for next to nothing. Truth is immigrants are willing to accept any job that most natives don't want to do and that the low wages are imposed by the ones who hire them, not by them.

 

I think one of the problems is that there is and never will be an European Union in the way some want. The cultural differences between each region make that impossible. And until the north European countries (they are the ones that want to impose their own way to the rest) realize that, there will still be problems.

There will be a European Union/nation whatever. I'm pretty sure we're going to see a unified Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark even within our regular life cycle. Not because we want to, but because we have to. I don't know about the other countries. Unifying with the southern countries would be like the Unification with eastern Germany, which cost us trillions of Euros, but at the end of the day the "message" will be more important.

And have you ever been to a bigger German city? There are huge areas where you won't hear a word of German. When I'm going to a smaller doctor here it's practically russian and some arabic languages the whole time. I'm pretty sure it's the same in the UK. At the end of the day culture means nothing if people cannot work or eat. Right now a unified EU would still be the strongest economy in the world (especially as you could expect insane growth rates because of the production and infrastructure building in lots of nations), I don't know how it's going to be in 30-40 years.

China wants to form something like an Asian-EU around themselves in eastern Asia. So they'd rule over 2-3 billion (!) people in that area and impose their political and financial system onto them. The US government is actualy fighting for that domestic market not to happen, because it could mean the end of western hegemony forever.

I didn't say that there would be no Union, I said that until some polititians realize that their vision of that union is not feasible, it won't happen.

And I don't need to go to a German city to experience that. Here in Barcelona happens the same thing, with neighborhoods were the people you find on the street speak in russian or arab. It's logic, people prefer to live where they will find other people like them. That, of course, can turn into a problem if the authorities don't try to welcome and integrate them into the rest of the city/country.

Yes, emigrants will try to adapt to the culture of the country they move on (still, looking for other people like them so they can keep some of their own culture), but you can't pretend to change the culture of a whole country. You can't, at least not whitin a few generations. There are many things that go against it.

So a European union would be just like that: A spanish area, a french area or a german area (even though we don't really have a real culture) and so on. I really don't see aproblem. The EU is actually already working on the Unification or why do you think so many things have been centralized recently and why they want to hand over more and more political and financial power towards Brussel?

And integration is not so easy. Lots of people simply refuse to learn the language of the country they're in or refuse getting proper education. And you cannot really force them if you don't want to throw them out on the streets or let them starve to death (german welfare system does not allow that ofc). But it's still getting better, most of the younger people around have already adepted quite well compared to their parents (who didn't lift a finger for integration and basically did everything to prevent their children to integrate as well) and I think it might improve again within the next generation.

Things can change so fast these days, I really wouldn't be surprised if some european nations with similar premise formed a bigger nations within a decade or two. Especially if the situation doesn'r improve - and right now it doesn't look like it. Lots of nations are just slowly dying an econimcal death. Spain seems to have new problems with local areas like Catalonia rebelling against the political central as well, or at least that's what the media over he said a couple of days ago.