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allblue said:
thx1139 said:
allblue said:
thx1139 said:
allblue said:
selnor1983 said:
Ive been saying this for for ages now. I don't believe over the next 10 years just a games console will win the hardware sales war. In 5 years people will easily afford an Xbox One. And it will be even more robust thanks to the design of the system being geared to this from day 1. IMO Sony will struggle to sell to outside the gamers. Where Microsoft I believe will really take Consoles to a new level of acceptance. Hell its not really a console.

Its a true multimedia device.


Give me a list of things that are truly innovative and practical that x1 does that ps4 doesn't. 

Can you create a list of things that the 1st iPhone truly innovated and practical that a Blackberry or a Windows Mobile device didnt already do?  Remember the 1st iPhone didnt even have an app store and they cost I forget was it $499 or $599 with a contract.   So what were the innovations?

iphone took off because it was the first of its kind with a large touch screen display, it was stylish, fancy and has a wow factor to it. The ipod was already immensely popular at that time, iphone combined the media capability like music, video, web browsing with functionality of a phone by getting rid of all the hessels like physical buttons. Steve job actually directly confronted blackberry and nokia in his presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3W58S29eSE

Like I said, give me a list of things very practical and innovative that x1 does and ps4 or smart tvs don't.

So you 100% answered the way I wanted you to.  It was never about the capabilities. The iPhone wasnt a better phone. It was a crappy phone. It was the interface.  Lets face it the PS4 and Smart TVs interfaces are crap.    MS is going the exact same route that Apple took with the iPhone. They are building the better interface.  The Windows Mobile phone I had when the iPhone came out did everything the iPhone did and I could put apps and build apps for it.  Back then you couldnt even do that with the iPhone.  It was the interface that mattered.

You are comparing two very different devices, the interface on iphone matters because it was practical. Tell me which part of x1's interface do you see becoming its selling point worth $500? The voice command? Skype call? NFL deal? Do you really think people will cash out $500 so that they can favourite, switch channels, volume up volume down using kinect? Or use a skype call on their TV while skype functionality is literally on every smart device available?

I'm not bashing, just an honest question. Iphone took off because it has this cool factor, it puts appstore, music collection, book collection, mobile gaming, all into one device and hell it was practical. Every innovation sounds good on paper, but for it to take off, people actually have to use it, it has to be applicable, it has to be natural, not just be a gimmick. 

Looked it up the iPhone launched at $500 and $600 with a 2 year contract. Yet it still took off because as you put it the cool factor. And that is exactly what MS is going for with the Xbox One.  Do I find the Xbox One interface practical. Hell yeah if it works and it worked OK with the 360. Biggest problem is that it didnt control everything and switching between TV, Games, Apps wasnt quick and it didnt control everything. Now if the control of everything is there it is a much cooler and honestly in the most part more convenient interface. I am sick and tired of having to walk my wife through the harmony remote over the phone because something didnt work just right.  She likes controlling the 360 today with voice, but would like it to control everything.

Have you ever in the dark hit the wrong button on a remote. Hell I know I have.  Have you ever spent time looking for the damn remote after your kids put it who knows where. Hell I know I have.  Will it be awesome to have a Bears game up with my live fantasy game right next to the main screen. Yes it will.  Will it be awesome to watch a game with my sister again. Or my son now away at school.  Yes it will.  Will it be nice to casually have a Blackhawks or Bulls game up in the snap view while I play a game and if something interesting happens instantly pop over to it.

So yeah I believe the interface is a huge improvement and will make an impact. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I dont think I will be.





Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.