Sony: We Will Conquer All

[Lone_Canis_Lupus]

Stever89 said:

Lone_Canis_Lupus said:

 

@ilovetogame

There weren't really that many casual games on the PS2. I doubt most people got a PS2 just for GTA. Most if not all my friends that are still left behind with the PS2 are hardcore gamers as well. I don't see your casual gamer showing up in my friends. The casual gamers you are talking about would have probably already moved to the Wii already.

Whoa, not a lot of casuals? I pulled this from one of my threads:

"I added up the best selling game for each of the best selling series on the PS2. Those games are: GTA:SA, GT3, FFX, MGS2, KH, DQVIII. Add up their sales and you get: 53.83 million units sold. That’s not even 50% of the userbase, and that’s only if every person who bought one of those games didn’t buy any of the other games. I’d imagine that the number of people total who bought any combination of those games to be around 25-35 million. Which is about what I have for the number of hardcore users, depending on which numbers you use. And of course, GTA:SA has been known as a heavy casual game, and I’ll show you why later."

And also look at the PS2 million sellers. Games like Scooby Doo: 100 Frights, and two SpongeBob games are in the million sellers. There's probably more if you'd bother to look (which I haven't).

Visit this thread to understand more about casuals. Just because a lot of games aren't "casual" doesn't mean a lot of the users aren't casual.

I just wanted to point that out. Continue on with the debate.

Edit: I just noticed that you said "casual games" so my point is... not completely right.

Edit 2: This also comes from that thread.

"Also, according to Sony’s financial records, total shipments of PS2 titles through March 2007 sits at around 1240 million units, meaning those 6 games that I mentioned only make up 4-6% of the entire game library of PS2 games when it comes to shipped units. Even when you combine all the different games from each of those series, you only get about 150 million units, which might be a bit high, but still only 12-15% of the total software sales. Meaning that much lesser known games, and games that would attract the casuals, such as SpongeBob: Battle (which sold 1.5 million units on the PS2), are abundant on the PS2 (and consoles in general). Even with lower sales of the casual games, they make up for in the sheer number of those types of games."

So... there ya go. Lots of casual, or not so well known games of which to speak. And yes, sports games are casual games.

Just because major games don't make up for the total amount of systems sold doesn't mean they're the only games. That doesn't automatically mean that every other game besides those are casual either. I'm not doubting that there were people that played casual games, I'm just saying that a lot are hardcore gamers as well. I still need to get better statistics by meeting some other PS2 people outside my area. My biggest point there is that the casual gamers on the PS2 mostly probably moved as a mass to the Wii by now. Those still with PS2s now are probably a good chunk of hardcore gamers waiting for the right move...as well as some casuals.

Oh, and just because a casual game sold a lot doesn't mean only casual gamers bought the games. I for one watched Scooby Doo all the time when I was a little kid...and I don't really consider myself a casual gamer...but I still bought the Scooby Doo game and found it fun.