Sony: We Will Conquer All

[Lone_Canis_Lupus]

crumas2 said:

Lone_Canis_Lupus said:

 

That's different...this is a new generation that hasn't been around long at all. There are still a lot of people that haven't moved to the next generation yet. A lot of PS2 users are still undecided. This is the point I'm making...in my case, what he said in that quote is true. All of my friends that stayed behind with the PS2 want a PS3 over the 360 and Wii...this is just in my case though. I'd have to go around and meet a lot of other people that stayed with the PS2 to confirm this.

You make a good point, but I think there is another factor involved that may cause a different outcome than you expect--and that Sony is claiming will occur. Cost. The PS2 entered the market at a much lower price point than either the 360 or the PS3. Many of those who are PS2 holdouts (and let's face it, a huge segment of the population in most industrialized nations owns a PS2) are waiting until they can get a console for a lot less than the current generation costs. In my mind this means Sony had better put decent BC BACK into their low-end machine before they get below the $200 critical mass point... otherwise Wii or 360 might eat their lunch if they get there first.

 The 80GB isn't dead. That one still has BC. And you're right about the price, most of my friends still with PS2s don't have the money for a 360 or PS3. But they never had their PS2s at first either. These kind of people wait until later on to get the next-gen consoles. Whether they can afford it or not though, I do know they all(out of my friends...I'm not saying all people left behind with the PS2, that would be stupid) want the PS3 over the Wii and 360. 

 @ilovetogame

There weren't really that many casual games on the PS2. I doubt most people got a PS2 just for GTA. Most if not all my friends that are still left behind with the PS2 are hardcore gamers as well. I don't see your casual gamer showing up in my friends. The casual gamers you are talking about would have probably already moved to the Wii already.

And all my PS2 friends didn't all of a sudden go "Oh!" because of this PR. They've been paying attention to games. Like I said, they're all hardcore gamers...not any casuals in my PS2 friends. Most of them aren't really into GTA either...though there are a couple, but it's not the main reason why they got a PS2.

Your argument with this doesn't seem to really hold up...the Pro 360 is only $50 cheaper than the 40GB PS3 and the Elite is only $50 cheaper than the 80GB. Price isn't much of a factor when they're that close together...and I know a lot of people like to avoid the arcade, so I don't know if that one really counts...though with people that don't really have the money, it probably does. Crumas argument I like better as it brings up the BC...my PS2 friends stayed behind because...well, they were undecided and love PS2 games. If they don't have decent BC...they definitely will be turned off by the 40GB.

 The PS3 won't ever be popular? It has pretty much doubled it sales rate from last year. Here's a thread that proves that: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=19099

 The PS3 has sold like 10.5 million and gaining momentum fast...it's catching up on the 360 fast. The PS3 is getting a lot of good exclusives this year as well. The PS3 isn't "unpopular", maybe not the most popular, but it is starting to become popular. Usually when anybody talks about the PS3 they get chewed out from the Wii and 360 fans which represents a majority of people with next-gen systems at my school. Lately though, I've heard people bring it up...and surprisingly people are becoming more accepting of it. 

 One of my friends that used to bad mouth the PS3 all the time and got a 360 says he's planning on getting a PS3 next as well...it's not the console that gets bashed because "17 h45 n0 g4m35" anymore. It's starting to become more popular.