Catalonia independence

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Scisca said:

Yeah well that's not really the case from what I've heard. They recently had to go to Madrid and ask for a huuuge loan, cause they were so much in debt, so it's not like it's all rosy over there and Spain is holding them back. Catalonia is doing pretty bad financially and is on life support from the capital.

The economy is doing badly for several reasons with, in my opinion (I'm no economist) the 2 big ones being

1-The burst of the housing bubble. This is something that had an impact on a lot of countries.

2-Banks. Most of the catalan economy, like other countries, is/was based on small-to-medium industries. But that kind of industry relies on credits to keep going and after the bubble burst, the bank cut all its credits. That had a bigger impact than the bursting bubble by itself.

Scisca said:

BTW. It always boggles my mind why you guys always go Catalonia vs. Spain only. I mean, a nice chunk of Catalonia is in France, would people wanting indepence want that part of Catalonia to join the new country or not? If yes, then why are they always only fighting the poor Spain?

That's because "we" lost a war against Spain and that always hurts, and because they've tried to... how can I say it. They have tried to get rid of our culture and language several times, luckily without success. But I'm not going to lie, if Catalonia were part of France I'd probably speak french now as France has been a lot more agressive against other languages.

Also, that territory isn't Catalonia. It is part of what was the Kingdom of Aragón-Catalunya or Catalunya-Aragó (it varies according to who you ask ) and are usually known as PaÏsos Catalans (catalan countries) along with Valencia, Baleares and part of Aragón.

@Mr Kahn: It's true that most of us will settle with greater autonomy, just like Euskadi and Navarra have. But the president of the Generalitat already asked for it and the answer was no. That's when all this madness about being independent begun.