Catalonia independence

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SlayerRondo said:

Spain itself has shown to be a poor leader of the people with its GDP overtaken by the much smaller population of Australia. 

Catalonia has shown itself a modern economy weighed down by the burden of its large government and could be all the better after independance.

Yeah well that's not really the case from what I've heard. They recently had to go to Madrid and ask for a huuuge loan, cause they were so much in debt, so it's not like it's all rosy over there and Spain is holding them back. Catalonia is doing pretty bad financially and is on life support from the capital.

Either way, this could cause massive havoc in whole Europe and not just Europe. A new spring of nations. Starts with Catalonia, goes to Scotland, Belgium, Germany (Bavaria mainly), Ukraine, maybe Lithuania, there could be some crazy shit in Moldova and let's not even mention the Balkanian monster... In NA Canada would fall apart, in Asia there could be a new war in Russia, the Kurds could try something as well. This could be an incredible domino, it would be crazy. Good thing in Poland we're keeping our separatists at check

And going back to Catalonia, for me personally it depends on how they plan to distribute nationality. I want to move there in a couple of years (just love the region), so if they gave me citizenship after doing that, I'd be all for it I also have a few friends there who are very involved in this idea of independence and so I'm supporting them kinda because of that.

@JEMC - considering Kosovo and Transnistria managed to get by financially doing what they did, you'd also manage to get all the pensions and such. But whether you'd be better off after separation is another case :P

BTW. It always boggles my mind why you guys always go Catalonia vs. Spain only. I mean, a nice chunk of Catalonia is in France, would people wanting indepence want that part of Catalonia to join the new country or not? If yes, then why are they always only fighting the poor Spain?