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JEMC said:
SlayerRondo said:
JEMC said:
SlayerRondo said:
JEMC said:
Oh, c'mon. Not here too!

I'm tired of this, it's almost 24/7 on TV, radio, newspapers. I thought I'd be safe here.


The plight of the Catalonians shall not be ignored.

The rotting leviathan of Spain shall not drag Catalonia down to the depths as the chains of oppression are cast off.

 

I'm catalonian so you can get your "plight of the Catalonians shall not be ignored" up your a**. I know a lot better than you what's happening here and why.

There are a lot of things to consider here (what happens the day after if people vote yes to independance? Where will the money to pay the pensionists come from, for example?), and not all of them rely on Spain and Catalonia only.

Sarcasm is so hard to get accross on the internet sadly. 

And the money for the pensionist would come from the Catalonian government presumably. Catalonians are on average better of than the standard Spanish citizen so it should not be much of an issue.

Your last sentence prooves that you don't know how the Spanish govermnent work.

It's Spain who gets the money from taxes, etc., and then it gives back to the different territories a part of the taxes collected in that zone. That's how the Generalitat (Catalonian gov.) gets most of its anual budget. The problem is that several territories get less money that they should (Madrid, Catalonia, Baleares get less money than the taxes their citizens have paid), others get more and a few have a special status that allow them to keep most of their own money without having to give it to Spain in the first place.

That's why your sentence makes no sense. If we declare independance, Spain won't give us money so the Generalitat will have to rely on debt (who will buy debt of a new country with so many unknowns?) until the next tax collect, every 3 months, happens.

But it's not only that, there are many other things that would be a problem.

 

@Player2: ¡Afortunadamente!

Firstly, the only thing Spain is known for is having a shaky economy so the new nation of Catalonia made up of the most economically vibrant regions of Spain would have less of a borrowing issue then Spain would without Catalonia.

Also Spain may have the money but it also has the debt. If they tried to hold Catalonia to ranson then Catalonia could refuse to take on any of the Spanish governments debt. 

Also a good shrinking of the government could be good for Catalonia in the long run.



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Where you either win

or you DIE