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Kasz216 said:
ninetailschris said:
Obama dropped the ball and is now going to make the public fear any healthcare bill. Honestly I believe he will go down as the worst president because of all the failures and pushed political agendas that are backfiring.

We need to drop stuff like fighting drugs and put that money towards a decent healthcare system. Have some government hospitals and also business hospitals. Free market is important with the balance of the government.

I'm a libertarian in some sense but I agree with somethings from all parties.


I can't imagine he'd go down worse then James Buchanon or Franklin Pierce who essentially let the god damn civil war happen on their watches.


Additionally, I think it's quite the opposite.   Obamacare will be quite shitty and turn out to be a big handout/favor to the insuance agencies.

Which is why it will need to be replaced....

 

and government regulations rarely ever roll backwords.  Which means we'll be looking at universal healthcare.

 

Democrats will vote for it because they'll want it.  Republicans will vote for it because they'll want to end the insurance company handouts.

 

Obama's won, barring some surprise upswell in republican support, (ha!) it's just he'll go down as the guy who fucked up on the first plan.  Though all told on balance, he'll take that any day of the week. 

 

Decades after universal healthcare, history will soften as it always does, and he'll eventually be remembered just as the president who set the motion for universal healthcare.

Haha forgot James. But feel like Obama will have more long-term negative effects with bills like a ACTA which he tried passing without anyone knowledge and try to pass without congress even getting the chance to read it! James was failure that in the long-term as recovered in a sense but Heathcare and Cyber bills are like a crack in dam. It will lay the foundation for the worst to come.

On a side note, I had to drop my insurance the other day because my insurance was going to cost me $5,000 more next year. I loved my program now I'm basically on welfare insurance compared to my great insurance previously. It makes sad to know others like me are paying a price.



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