| Zappykins said: So much of the world has better health care than the USA and they pay many times less. Fact USA's health care is only slightly better than Mexico's yet cost 7 times as much. |
That's actually not nessisairly a fact. The traditional measures people tend to trott out about healthcare don't really tend to measure healthcare.
The US actuall has far better indicators when you clear up confounding variables of many kinds.
An example that even the most stringent liberal should be able to get behind for example is income inequality. Poor people don't live as long. Even in countries with universal healthcare.
Another one that oeople like to use life expectancy forget is the fact that the US has a SHIT ton of more violent crime... which leads to this fun statistical chart.

Then you've got the higher level of US teen pregancies compaired to most other countries, which feeds a higher rate of premature births which leads to again, a downward force on life expectancy.
and that's not even getting to Obesity, and tons of other factors.
Honestly, when it comes to life expetancy, healthcare means surprisingly little... or at the very least, the bottom of the line stuff that people will be signing up for thanks to Obamacare won't.
For example...
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321








