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theprof00 said:
Landguy said:
theprof00 said:
Landguy said:
theprof00 said:
I want whatever you're smoking.
Cell phones are nowhere near close to putting out the same level of power as a console.


The power of the Cell phone has more than doubled every year for the past 4 years.  So, 4-5 years from now, the will probably have more than enough power to handle most games.

With that said/ I wasn't speaking only to smartphones, I was also talking about tablets.

If the amount of power in the ps3 or 360 could be fit into the size of a phone on top of battery and speakers, why don't we have ps360 slims the size of iphones?

Protip: Phones cannot even emulate ps2. The best they can do right now? psp level.

Mobile SoC GPU Comparison
  PowerVR SGX 543MP2 PowerVR SGX 543MP4 PowerVR SGX 544MP3 PowerVR SGX 554MP4
Used In A5 A5X Exynos 5 Octa A6X
SIMD Name USSE2 USSE2 USSE2 USSE2
# of SIMDs 8 16 12 32
MADs per SIMD 4 4 4 4
Total MADs 32 64 48 128
GFLOPS @ Shipping Frequency 16.0 GFLOPS 32.0 GFLOPS 51.1 GFLOPS 71.6 GFLOPS

The samsung galaxy s4 uses the bolded. 51.1 Gigaflops.

The ps4?

1.8 TERAflops. That's more than 35 times more powerful.

PS3 is 215 Gigaflops. Still 4 times more powerful.

Ps2 is 6 Gigaflops. The most expensive brand new most powerful phone is less than 10x stronger than a console designed over a decade ago, and outclassed by a console made almost 8 years ago.

I didn't say that todays cell phones could do this.  I was speaking of the cell phones coming out in the fall of 2015(2 years from now).  You are comparing something that isn't relevent - emulators.  I never said that the games would be run on emulators, I said they could be ported to them.  If you look at the A7 processor found in the latest Iphone, it is using a 64 bit architecture and is quite powerful.  Is it PS360 powerful?  No.  But 2 years from now is a different story.

Way to dance around the point. Is that a salsa, or are you just twerkin it?

You said that phones doubles in power every 5 years. If the current most popular new phone is 60gigaflops, then in 5 years, it'll be 120...which is coincidentally what the 360 is capable of. Now then, to reach ps4? By the 5 year standard, it'll be approximately...let's see 120..240..480..960..1800....25 years.

Not including factors like some kind of miracle breakthrough in batteries and CPGPUs.

 

But anyways, since you've now retreated to your tablet haven (where you might actually have a point)...again, we're looking at battery issues as well as overheating issues and the problem with die shrinking slowing down. You simply cannot keep shrinking on a stable rate.

The next breakthrough in terms of computers is quantum. Until that happens, do not expect phones or tablets to match a console, because as you may have guessed yourself, there will be new consoles too.

Superchunk was right about one thing. Android consoles will appear. Conversely, MS and Sony, and now Steam will offer major competition. Why buy a system that plays the same games as your phone/pad when you can play something else? The market just doesn't make sense.

No dancing, just you misreading.  I said that phones double in power EVERY year.

You are not the only one to bring up the battery issue.  If your console is plugged in, why can't you plug in your smartphone/tablet?  I have a Surface Pro tablet that I utilise all day hooked up to a full keyboard and mouse and monitor.  When I want to be portable, i just disconnect it.  The Pro has an i5 processor that runs most every game I download from steam with no overheating issues.  This was a first gen Surface Pro.  I just bought the 2nd gen Surface Pro for my son and it is considerably faster with 8gb of ram and a better GPU all in a 2 pound tablet.  This is 2013 technology and products.  You don't think that in 5 years with the whole technology industry seeing that the market is moving towards tablets that we won't see tablets that can be even more powerful?

Many of the people frequenting this site are too busy playing games to see that the technology is already there.  It is just a matter of prices coming down over the next few years to make it go mainstream.



It is near the end of the end....