Let's stop kidding ourselves.

[DonFerrari]

S.T.A.G.E. said:

DonFerrari said:

DevilRising said:

Frequency said:

 

A network infrastructure and its 24/7 operational costs are not on the disk you buy.

Also, Nintendo would need a network infrastructure to begin with, to charge.

That's funny, you don't need to pay extra $$$ to play a lot of games online with Steam. You also didn't need to do so with PSN on PS3, which was most certainly a "network infrastructure" as you call it. The argument really doesn't hold water, and Sony seemed to be doing just fine having free online last gen. And while Nintendo may not an XBL type of system, the Wii U has it's friend structure and new Miiverse functions, the latter of which I'm sure costs at least some money to operate. However, even if Nintendo DID have a more elaborate "network infrastructure", I think they just might not charge people for online gaming, because no matter how people like you try to rationalize it because "your company", IE the company you're obviously a fan of, is doing it, it's still a fucking ripoff.

No, network costs don't "come on the disk you buy", but the online modes that the developer programmed into the fucking game sure as hell do. And getting bent over and told to take it is getting bent over and told to take it, no matter how you try to justfy it, it is what it is. And that is precisely what paying $70 for a PS4 game, and then having to pay a manditory monthy PSN fee JUST to play that game online, is.

I do hope Ninty doesn't get greedy as MS and Sony and keep the online free... maybe that put PSN normal as okay to use for MP (even tough I don't use it...) keep PS+ just for the special content that are great...

Theres no real demand on Nintendo products for them to do it. If Nintendo makes their games even more online friendly  the demand will come. Nintendo has conditioned Nintendo gamers to play on the couch with the family rather than to play online. They would have to reverse a thirty year old process they've basically perfected. That and they need to fix their issues with third parties in a major way so those top third party online games can be on the Wii U.

I preffer an always offline console =[  ... but if PS4 don't mandate me to play online I'm satisfied.