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curl-6 said:
Kasz216 said:
starcraft said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Sorry pretty common sense, at least the majority of law enforcement know that trying to ban guns in any form won't stop the criminals. Your delusional if you do.

If by delusional you mean examining studies from almost any country that has actually taken steps to reduce gun availability and reaped the benefits of substantially lowered gun crime then, yes.

We're all delusional.

Gun crime =/= crime.

Also... exatly what studies are you talking about... because generally the studies you read DON'T show that, and instead show that any drops in violenet crime were part of a trend of decreased violent crime that has been going on pretty much everywhere since the 80's.  

The only thing being lowered, is suicide as committed by guns.

I seem to recall you being Australian, so...

http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/3/455.abstract

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1540791

We've had this discussion before, but since the semi-auto buyback scheme introduced by the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre, there has not been a single gun massacre in Australia. 

that's an extremely flawed outlook.

There hasnt been a massacre since?

When was the last one before that? and then the one before that?

you're basically arguing, that you bought elephant repelent for your yard, off a rather convincing infomercial, and since you've been using it, you havent had any elephants in your yard.